Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 11:31:02 -0700
Reply-To: Doug in Calif <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
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From: Doug in Calif <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
Subject: Re: serious vanagon security issues
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I totally agree with Don,
One woman is killed in a Taxi here in SF area and millions of women all over
the US
are now afraid to get in a taxi late at night alone.
We ourselves are to blame for this for not really thinking and getting
perspective.
The media is also largely to blame for its constant brainwashing.
Several years back my girlfriend and I were snow camping up in lake Tahoe in
my
van. We were the only ones in the campground up there and no ranger, you
just drop your
$12 into the pipe and the ranger cruises through in the morning.
She was freaking out about us being alone, thinking there were bad guys out
there in the 20 degree weather
waiting behind the trees to get us. I finally rolled the sunroof open and
got my mag light and the two of us stood
up in the van with just our heads popping out and looked around the whole
area with the light. I told her "you drive
through downtown Oakland every day, the ODDS of you getting attacked THERE
compared to up here right not are so far off the chart
you and me both would literally be FAMOUS for being attacked up here in
Tahoe in a campground in the middle of winter.
I also showed her that I had brought my handgun, and even though she is an
"anti-gunner" she seemed to feel safer knowing we had a line of defense.
I believe we have become a very sad state here in the US mentally towards
how we interact with each other.
You go to other countries and even though they have their problems they
interact in a more positive way with each other IMHO.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Baxter" <onanov@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: serious vanagon security issues
> Americans have irrational fears of things that aren't back up by
> statistics--even in Iowa City kids aren't much allowed to even walk to
> school--this in the day when statistically, across the country, crime
> rates are actually down from the 1960s and 70s. Property crimes may
> be up--but our physical selves are actually safer.
>
> The baby boomers grew up--and most crime is perpetuated by persons who
> are younger and have much more energy than most of us have left :-)
>
> On 8/6/05, Christopher Gronski <gronski@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Its not exactly about fear of eBay trading (nor Vanagons) but just saw
> > a BBC documentary on fear in the US called "The Power of Nightmares",
> > and its is a MUST SEE:
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On 8/5/05, Robert Rountree <syncro87@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm an American/Canadian.. born in the US, did the Navy, College in
Canada.
> > > I shop on E-bay and I'm finding the same problems, about people afraid
of
> > > shipping to Canada. Yet I drive and ship to The US all the time.. no
> > > problem... here's the strange part for me (you knew the strange part
was
> > > coming right?).... of all this talk about break-in's and stealing
stuff and
> > > dishonest folks on e-bay... did ya happen to notice none of us
Canadians are
> > > talking about this happening to us? and there are a lot of us on this
> > > list.... the fear all seems to be south of the border.. and this new
drummed
> > > up fear really breaks my heart to see.
> > >
> > > RR
> > >
> >
>
>
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> ---------------------------------------------
> Donald Baxter
> 316 Ridgeview Avenue
> University Heights, Iowa 52246
> www.onanov.com
