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Date:         Wed, 10 Aug 2005 05:59:22 EDT
Reply-To:     RAlanen@AOL.COM
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From:         Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Broken Stebro Muffler Bracket
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In a message dated 09/08/2005 3:22:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

This is a false statement and especially so with the Grade 409 SS which is used in the Stebro. Generally speaking, one of the desirable qualities of stainless steel is that it is tough and, however measured, toughness in a material is the exact opposite of brittleness. Grade 409 SS cannot be hardened by a normal thermal process, so what is it more brittle than? I would think that 409 is used so extensively in exhaust systems especially because it does not, with heat cycling, become brittle and crack.

From what I have seen of the flaccid mounting brackets on the Stebro, the problem appears to be more with the design than with the material. The poorly executed bracketry is just not rigid enough.

Also, the fiber gaskets which are used to make up the connections to the Stebro are for spherical joints, not flared joints. If a fiber ring is used in place of a double-bevel steel ring in a flared exhaust joint, the fiber ring will quickly erode and the joint will leak. Does that sound familiar?

Beyond anything else, as mufflers go, the Stebro is a bump ugly fabrication which appears to have been designed more to accommodate the limitations of the vendor's tooling than to improve upon what is already available elsewhere.

All this talk about Stebro might be pointless because rumor has it that Hormel just started making mufflers.

George your comments have been forwarded to Dan at STEBRO. Maybe he will offer you a position with the company !

Cheers,

Frank Condelli Almonte, Ontario, Canada '87 Westy, '90 Carat & Lionel Trains Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley _Frank Condelli & Associates_ (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/busindex.html) or http://frankcondelli.com _STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless Steel Mufflers_ (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/stebro.htm) _BusFusion_ (http://members.aol.com/BusFusion/bfhome.htm) a VW Camper camping event, Almonte, ON, June 09 ~ 12, 2005


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