Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:01:46 -0700
Reply-To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
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From: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: Vanagon running on vegetable oil
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There's a station here in Phoenix that has a veggie oil pump. Nice for
the environment, but it's more expensive than diesel.
Karl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
Behalf Of
> Stan Wilder
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 6:58 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon running on vegetable oil
>
> Don't get misled by people that tell you veggie oil or used fry oil is
free.
> A good 70% of the oil used for cooking in America has been reprocessed
> several times over it's useful life.
> Companies like Frito Lay aka Kentucky Fried Chicken and every other
national
> chain have contractors that pick up the oil at their locations and
reprocess
> it.
> The oil might not come directly back to them but it does get
reprocessed and
> resold.
> Before you make long range plans on a Bio Diesel you better check out
your
> local fuel supplies because you may still be paying for Diesel.
>
> Stan Wilder
> Engine Ceramics
> 214-352-4931
> www.engineceramics.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Gronski" <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon running on vegetable oil
>
>
> This article was in my local (London Ontario) newspaper the other day,
> its veggie oil Jetta... engine conversion anyone????
>
> David Marshall at www.fastforward.ca has mentioned a heated tank
> (under the sliding door) a couple of times, but I'm not sure if it is
> for sale yet.
>
> Chris
>
> Car hums on used vegetable oil
>
> Gary Clark's vehicle smells like french fries but that's a small price
to
> pay.
>
> BRIAN CLEEVE, Special to the Free Press
> 2005-08-24 02:14:54
>
> CHATHAM -- Whenever Gary Clark is low on fuel, he steers his
> Volkswagen toward a nearby restaurant for a tank of free vegetable
> oil.
>
> His car smells like french fries -- which he figures is a smaller
> price to pay than the cost of diesel fuel.
>
> And, although the 38-year-old Chatham-area farmer spent $1,500 making
> the mechanical conversions to his 1997 Jetta, he expects to save that
> much in fuel costs within 40 weeks.
>
> "That's if the price stays the same (93.9 cents for diesel as of last
> week). If it goes up, I'll save even more."
>
> Clark estimates he had been spending $35 a week on diesel fuel.
>
> "I like driving by the gas stations and smiling when I see those
> people lined up to pay for diesel fuel."
>
> The changes he's made to his VW, including installing a special tank
> in his trunk, are portable and can be put on another vehicle.
>
> Clark has been using vegetable oil since Aug. 1, after reading an
> article about it earlier this year.
>
> He goes to independently owned and operated restaurants and asks for
> any leftover vegetable oil.
>
> "They have to pay to get rid of the used oil, so they're happy to give
> it to me," he said.
>
> Clark drives about 1,200 kilometres a week, between his job as a
> locomotive engineer in Sarnia and personal business in Windsor and
> Burlington.
>
> "I stop at restaurants in those places and ask for the vegetable oil.
> I fuel my car and my stomach at the same time."
>
> His vehicle's engine requires diesel fuel to ignite. But after Clark
> has driven about a kilometre, he flips a toggle switch on the
> dashboard that allows him to change fuels while driving.
>
> Clark switches back to diesel fuel just before shutting off his
> engine. He still has most of the diesel fuel he put into his 45-litre
> tank three weeks ago.
>
> He has installed a special filter that needs to be kept cleaned. The
> vegetable oil goes through the screen three times before being drained
> into the special tank in his trunk.
>
> Keeping the vegetable oil warm is one of the biggest challenges Clark
> will face as winter approaches. He's not yet sure how to solve that
> problem.
>
> Al Wissink, service manager at Richmond Motors, Chatham's Volkswagen
> dealership, said using vegetable oil won't damage the diesel engine.
>
> He noted the vegetable oil needs to be heated to about 21 C for it to
> be operational.
>
> But Wissink added that almost any fuel will operate a diesel engine.
>
> "The only difference here is that he gets it free," said Wissink.
> "Otherwise, it wouldn't be worth his while."
>
> Clark said there are about 20,000 such vehicles in Canada and the
> United States.
>
> Copyright (c) The London Free Press
>
> On 8/26/05, David Bohannan <fjazzbass@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have heard of diesels being able to run on WVO (waste vegetable
oil).
> >
> > 2 of the major components involved are as follows:
> >
> > Filtration: The oil needs to sit and sit and sit for a long time for
> > the crud to settle at the bottom...then it needs to go thru an
> > inordinate amount of filtration...I think there is a website that
> > chronicles this
> >
> > Heat: this stuff needs to be heated to be able to flow thru the
> > diesel's lines and injectors, etc...so part of converting to WVO you
> > need to heat the WVO tank somehow...
> >
> > Here is a website that discusses it in detail:
> >
> > http://www.greasel.com/
> >
> > Dave
> >
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