Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:42:23 -0500
Reply-To: Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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From: Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: Vanagon running on vegetable oil
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The city of Denton Texas is running Vegie Oil and Diesel mix in their
garbage trucks.
http://www.gomeangreen.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t21086.html
This is a municipal project so it'll never be coat effective or help anybody
other than the fellow that built the plant for processing the oil and got a
100 year leas from the city on the building and property. (A bureaucrats
Cousin NO Doubt).
Carl's corner is Willie Nelsons chosen media for the green oil movement.
I'm sure that it isn't mentioned elsewhere but Carl's Corner was
incorporated from farm land to create a Wet Spot to sell Alcohol along
Interstate 35 about 50 miles out from Dallas.
Carl's also sports a topless bar that is a favorite of transient truckers
passing thorough Texas
http://www.gomeangreen.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t21086.html
Stan Wilder
Engine Ceramics
214-352-4931
www.engineceramics.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Wolz" <wolzphoto@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Vanagon running on vegetable oil
> There's a station here in Phoenix that has a veggie oil pump. Nice for
> the environment, but it's more expensive than diesel.
>
> Karl
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > Stan Wilder
> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 6:58 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Vanagon running on vegetable oil
> >
> > Don't get misled by people that tell you veggie oil or used fry oil is
> free.
> > A good 70% of the oil used for cooking in America has been reprocessed
> > several times over it's useful life.
> > Companies like Frito Lay aka Kentucky Fried Chicken and every other
> national
> > chain have contractors that pick up the oil at their locations and
> reprocess
> > it.
> > The oil might not come directly back to them but it does get
> reprocessed and
> > resold.
> > Before you make long range plans on a Bio Diesel you better check out
> your
> > local fuel supplies because you may still be paying for Diesel.
> >
> > Stan Wilder
> > Engine Ceramics
> > 214-352-4931
> > www.engineceramics.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Christopher Gronski" <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 8:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: Vanagon running on vegetable oil
> >
> >
> > This article was in my local (London Ontario) newspaper the other day,
> > its veggie oil Jetta... engine conversion anyone????
> >
> > David Marshall at www.fastforward.ca has mentioned a heated tank
> > (under the sliding door) a couple of times, but I'm not sure if it is
> > for sale yet.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > Car hums on used vegetable oil
> >
> > Gary Clark's vehicle smells like french fries but that's a small price
> to
> > pay.
> >
> > BRIAN CLEEVE, Special to the Free Press
> > 2005-08-24 02:14:54
> >
> > CHATHAM -- Whenever Gary Clark is low on fuel, he steers his
> > Volkswagen toward a nearby restaurant for a tank of free vegetable
> > oil.
> >
> > His car smells like french fries -- which he figures is a smaller
> > price to pay than the cost of diesel fuel.
> >
> > And, although the 38-year-old Chatham-area farmer spent $1,500 making
> > the mechanical conversions to his 1997 Jetta, he expects to save that
> > much in fuel costs within 40 weeks.
> >
> > "That's if the price stays the same (93.9 cents for diesel as of last
> > week). If it goes up, I'll save even more."
> >
> > Clark estimates he had been spending $35 a week on diesel fuel.
> >
> > "I like driving by the gas stations and smiling when I see those
> > people lined up to pay for diesel fuel."
> >
> > The changes he's made to his VW, including installing a special tank
> > in his trunk, are portable and can be put on another vehicle.
> >
> > Clark has been using vegetable oil since Aug. 1, after reading an
> > article about it earlier this year.
> >
> > He goes to independently owned and operated restaurants and asks for
> > any leftover vegetable oil.
> >
> > "They have to pay to get rid of the used oil, so they're happy to give
> > it to me," he said.
> >
> > Clark drives about 1,200 kilometres a week, between his job as a
> > locomotive engineer in Sarnia and personal business in Windsor and
> > Burlington.
> >
> > "I stop at restaurants in those places and ask for the vegetable oil.
> > I fuel my car and my stomach at the same time."
> >
> > His vehicle's engine requires diesel fuel to ignite. But after Clark
> > has driven about a kilometre, he flips a toggle switch on the
> > dashboard that allows him to change fuels while driving.
> >
> > Clark switches back to diesel fuel just before shutting off his
> > engine. He still has most of the diesel fuel he put into his 45-litre
> > tank three weeks ago.
> >
> > He has installed a special filter that needs to be kept cleaned. The
> > vegetable oil goes through the screen three times before being drained
> > into the special tank in his trunk.
> >
> > Keeping the vegetable oil warm is one of the biggest challenges Clark
> > will face as winter approaches. He's not yet sure how to solve that
> > problem.
> >
> > Al Wissink, service manager at Richmond Motors, Chatham's Volkswagen
> > dealership, said using vegetable oil won't damage the diesel engine.
> >
> > He noted the vegetable oil needs to be heated to about 21 C for it to
> > be operational.
> >
> > But Wissink added that almost any fuel will operate a diesel engine.
> >
> > "The only difference here is that he gets it free," said Wissink.
> > "Otherwise, it wouldn't be worth his while."
> >
> > Clark said there are about 20,000 such vehicles in Canada and the
> > United States.
> >
> > Copyright (c) The London Free Press
> >
> > On 8/26/05, David Bohannan <fjazzbass@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I have heard of diesels being able to run on WVO (waste vegetable
> oil).
> > >
> > > 2 of the major components involved are as follows:
> > >
> > > Filtration: The oil needs to sit and sit and sit for a long time for
> > > the crud to settle at the bottom...then it needs to go thru an
> > > inordinate amount of filtration...I think there is a website that
> > > chronicles this
> > >
> > > Heat: this stuff needs to be heated to be able to flow thru the
> > > diesel's lines and injectors, etc...so part of converting to WVO you
> > > need to heat the WVO tank somehow...
> > >
> > > Here is a website that discusses it in detail:
> > >
> > > http://www.greasel.com/
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
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