Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 20:16:00 -0400
Reply-To: Wil Haslup <wil@CHARMFX.COM>
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From: Wil Haslup <wil@CHARMFX.COM>
Subject: Re: Maybe now is the time to fill the tank of your extra car or
"parts vanagon"
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turbodieseltrooper wrote:
> WRONG - The electric motor, of a hybrid, only works while moving away
> from a
> standstill for as long as there is juice in the battery.
Which is why it adds economy....most fuel is lost on
acceleration/deceleration and not at speed.
> A hybrid provides
> NO advantage at speeds above 35mph as it's running on gas. The only thing
> that we would get under your plan is landfills full of huge lead batteries
> and sulfric acid spills after major accidents.
there are other storage technologies and one of the things
you don't hear about is that hybrids also use something called a
capacitance cell
I include a Google link cause lots of these docs are PDFs.
Essentially they are capacitors which permit larger capacities, quicker
responses and are more appropriate for uses in a hybrids.
I've wondered for years why we still use lead acid batteries to start
our cars. Capacitance cells would be trouble when discharged but should
charge and jump the same as a lead acid. ...I'm guessing since they
don't have internals that will eventually stop holding charge they would
wreck the battery market. They might fail eventually but they should
last much longer than a lead acid battery.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Young" <tomyoung1@COMCAST.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Maybe now is the time to fill the tank of your extra car or
> "parts vanagon"
>
>
>> Well, *of course* our fuel consumption problems can be solved by
>> technology!
>> If every new car purchased in America for the next 10 years was a hybrid
>> you
>> don't think fuel consumption would decline dramatically? Off course it
>> would! I'm pretty sure that building a Prius or whatever doesn't
>> consumme
>> significantly more resources than building a V8-powered SUV, so net
>> consumption of fuels of any sort would decline, a benefit of technology.
Part of this line of thinking reminds me that old bays and splities were
mostly made of steel, rubber and glass. Sure that required oil to make
but lots of stuff in today's cars is plastic.....not only requiring oil
to make but is essentially oil in a different form....and much of it
will never breakdown.
--
Wil
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