Date:         Fri, 2 Sep 2005 20:29:27 -0700
Reply-To:     turbodieseltrooper <turbodieseltrooper@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
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From:         turbodieseltrooper <turbodieseltrooper@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Maybe now is the time to fill the tank of your extra car or
              "parts vanagon"
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I would love to see a pratical electric powered vehicle - remember the max
torque from an electric motor is available from 0 rpm. Additional power can
be achieved by adding additional voltage at an increased amp draw. No need
to tear into an engine to extract extra power.You could get all the tire
shreding power you want. You'll never see this though, because current
batteries are just too short lived.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Young" <tomyoung1@COMCAST.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: Maybe now is the time to fill the tank of your extra car or
"parts vanagon"


> Well, you know, the lust for massive, roaring, high speed, high
> acceleration
> cars (a lust carefully cultivated by the automobile industry) isn't going
> to
> go away overnight.  (What macho American male is going to want to drive
> around in a vehicle that won't accelerate to 60mph in 5.7 seconds and go
> 120mph: insecure little boys of any age with penis envy and mature,
> thoughtful Vanagon drivers who can think for themselves.)  Manufacturers
> are
> going to accommodate those lusts, even in hybrids.
>
> I was reacting to the flat statement that technology can't solve our fuel
> problems.  I say, again, of course it will!  I can't be responsible for
> vehicle manufactures that simultaneously earn a "green" merit badge at the
> same time they appeal to the little boys.
>
> By the way, I ride my bike for most any trip under 5 miles, particularly
> if
> the return trip doesn't involve carrying 12 foot 2" x 4" 's back from Home
> Depo.  Even "old" technology works to reduce my fuel consumption.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Tom Young
> Lafayette, CA 94549
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Sinclair" <alan@DETERMINISTICNETWORKS.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Maybe now is the time to fill the tank of your extra car or
> "parts vanagon"
>
>
>> Unfortunately even hybrids are not answering the call to reduce gas
>> consumption.  Except for the Toyota Prius and the Honda Insight,
>> hybridization is being used to give more power, not less consumption, as
>> reflected in the State of Calif's decision to allow only those two
>> vehicles to enjoy the carpool lanes on freeways when driven solo.  We're
>> just a greedy lot, on the whole.
>>
>>
>> Tom Young wrote:
>>
>> >Well, *of course* our fuel consumption problems can be solved by
> technology!
>> >If every new car purchased in America for the next 10 years was a hybrid
> you
>> >don't think fuel consumption would decline dramatically?  Off course it
>> >would!
>> >
>>
>> <snip>