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Date:         Sat, 3 Sep 2005 19:44:45 -0700
Reply-To:     Zoltan <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Zoltan <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Subject:      Re: gasoline price time capsule
Comments: To: Doug in Calif <vanagon@astound.net>
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Better than that. It is coming out of the ground under pressure, straight into the pipeline. Remember how much trouble it was to put out those fires when Saddam's guys fired them up. Zoltan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug in Calif" <vanagon@astound.net> To: "Zoltan" <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: gasoline price time capsule

>I heard it costs them 3-4 bucks a barrel to produce crude and we buy it for > 70 bucks a barrel. > Must be nice to dig a hole in the ground and pull out as much money as you > need. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zoltan" <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:35 PM > Subject: Re: gasoline price time capsule > > >> The last time I was reading about it, the price of a gallon of gas in >> Iraq >> is $0.05. Yep, five cents. That was a year ago. Now it could be ten > cent >> a gallon. (let's go to Iraq?) >> Zoltan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Keezer" <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM> >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:11 PM >> Subject: Re: gasoline price time capsule >> >> >> > It doesn't matter what type of energy we are >> > talking about. All energy is expensive. >> > >> > If we switch to another form, that will become >> > expensive. >> > >> > Diesel here already costs more than premium gas >> > in Seattle. >> > >> > Biodiesel will be taxed, raising it above the >> > price of Diesel ,and growing crops to produce the >> > vegetable oil costs more to produce than >> > petroleum. >> > >> > Any fuel that becomes popular ends up with a high >> > demand. >> > >> > Why are'nt the Asians in Kyoto and elsewhere >> > running on rice-ohol? >> > >> > Diesel engines are noisy and smelly. >> > My neighbors would scorn me if I ran one here. >> > When a Diesel pick-up goes up the street , it >> > sounds like a fire-truck. >> > >> > I don't like the noise either. I would switch to >> > alcohol fuel like they have in the midwest, >> > called E-85, 100 octane, more clean burning than >> > diesel or SVO, and you can run it in your Accord >> > without having to sign one. >> > >> > Then we all don't have to rip out our gas engines >> > for Diesel replacements. >> > >> > The local utility used to sell only electricity >> > locally when it was first created. Cheap >> > Northwest power. >> > >> > Now it's on sale to the highest bidder, thru the >> > grid, to California. >> > >> > Fuel is the same way- where more consumers are, >> > more demand, and a higher percentage of people >> > who can afford higher prices. >> > >> > (I saw a Flex-fuel Honda Civic on the freeway the >> > other day) >> > >> > Robert >> > >> > 1982 Westfalia >> > >> > If we someday run on corn fuel, do we call it >> > Cornfalia, or Westcornia? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> This really is all a blessing on disguise... no >> >> fuel shortages here in BC, >> >> just higher prices. In the last two weeks we >> >> went from 97.9 to 109.9 to >> >> 118.9 per liter. Diesel is now 104.9, was >> >> 89.9. These higher prices are >> >> going to get the masses thinking about the >> >> environment and what driving >> >> their H2 or other ugly sport utility really >> >> means. People don't give a >> >> rat's ass about the environment as a whole, >> >> just the tree hugging "weirdos", >> >> US politicians don't care either or else they >> >> would have signed the Kyoto >> >> Accord and not make tax breaks for people to >> >> buy big gas guzzlers like the >> >> H2. As it becomes more costly to drive these >> >> planet killing machines, they >> >> [the machines] will die as people won't be able >> >> to afford to drive them. >> >> Cars like the VW TDI and the MB Smart will gain >> >> even more market share as >> >> they are cheaper to drive and less harmful to >> >> the environment. Darwin is >> >> hard at work and that is a good thing. >> >> >> >> I really hope gas goes to 150.0 per liter - the >> >> planet will be a much better >> >> place to live in. My TriStar is a TDI, my >> >> camper is getting a TDI installed >> >> in it as well as my Golf Country Syncro. These >> >> can all run on BioDiesel or >> >> SVO so the price of gasoline and ultimately >> >> petroleum Diesel doesn't bother >> >> me. >> >> >> >> Something to think about! >> >> >> >> David Marshall >> >> >> >> Fast Forward Automotive Inc. >> >> 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road >> >> Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 >> >> >> >> http://www.fastforward.ca >> >> mailto:sales@fastforward.ca >> >> Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 >> >> 1160 >> >> >> >> - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions >> >> - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and >> >> Importation >> >> - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models >> >> >> >> >> >> Due to the large volume of email we receive, >> >> PLEASE include previous >> >> emails when responding. This will allow us to >> >> read the complete dialogue >> >> in one message and will result in quicker and >> >> more accurate responses. >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Vanagon Mailing List >> >> [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf >> >> Of roger sisler >> >> Sent: September 3, 2005 10:24 AM >> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> >> Subject: gasoline price time capsuel >> >> >> >> >> >> I thought these prices might be of interest 5 >> >> years from now when someone >> >> accidently pulls them up in the archives. Will >> >> they seem low or high to the >> >> future listees? These are from my 7-11 gas >> >> station. Monday $2.63/gallon >> >> Tuesday $$2.69 Wednesday $2.79/gallon >> >> Thursday $2.97/gallon Friday >> >> $3.29/gallon Satuerday $3.49/gallon(out of >> >> regular so gas is $3.59). Many >> >> gas stations are out of gas in the Washington >> >> DC area today. It seems Sunday >> >> prices will be about 20 cents higher. The roads >> >> carry far fewer vehicles >> >> lately.I have been seeing lots of bicycles and >> >> people walking, so please be >> >> careful when driving.There is probably lots of >> >> gas at resorts and the >> >> beach,as many will not want to risk driving >> >> there. When Tuesday comes,and >> >> the new work week begins, it is going to get >> >> very interesting.I remember >> >> during the last gas shortage laws were changed >> >> where only vehicles with >> >> licence plates ending with an even number could >> >> fill up on an even day , and >> >> plates ending with an odd >> >> number could fill up on days ending with an >> >> odd number.Resort destinations >> >> advertised "come on out, we have plenty of gas >> >> out here".Few went. The local >> >> news station says dont drive your car this >> >> holiday-- just wash it instead . >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home >> >> page >> >> >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> > http://mail.yahoo.com >


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