Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 13:37:00 -0400
Reply-To: ROBERT DONALDS <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
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From: ROBERT DONALDS <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: rattle INSIDE engine
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Stan
the note used depends on the spring needed Ive been cutting down the wires
from the same piano for years
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: rattle INSIDE engine
> Jeeze! Bob I sorry to hear you've been destroying a whole piano just to
> get
> this 39 cent piece of piano wire.
> But I'm dying of curiosity about which note you use for the best results.
> I just been getting my piano wire from ACE Hardware in 12" lengths.
>
> Stan Wilder
> Engine Ceramics
> 214-352-4931
> www.engineceramics.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ROBERT DONALDS" <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: rattle INSIDE engine
>
>
>> now all we need is a piano
>> Al I will send you a spring in good old US mail if you send me you
>> address
>>
>> going slower miles an hour with a pain in my wallet
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Al and Sue Brase" <albeeee@MCHSI.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 4:42 AM
>> Subject: rattle INSIDE engine
>>
>>
>> > For the past several years, my 87 2.1 engine has had an internal
>> > rattle.
>> > Kind of sounds like a marble vibrating near the distributor. It rattles
>> > a lot faster than a loose valve lifter. Maybe twice a revolution
>> > instead
>> > of once every other revolution. This is an engine that I totally
>> > rebuilt
>> > about 6 years (60k miles) ago. It had spun a rod bearing. I put in a
>> > set
>> > of rebuilt 1.9 rods, reground the crank, new rings, etc. It runs great,
>> > but the oil pressure was a little low. First I just shorted out the
>> > high
>> > pressure sensor, but started using straight weight 40w oil for 9 months
>> > a year. That keeps the buzzer off. I wouldn't be surprised that I
>> > boogered something up in the assembly, but if it is a terminal error,
>> > it
>> > sure is getting there slowly.
>> > So, anyone have any ideas what might be the source of the rattle? I've
>> > pretty well eliminated all the external sources.
>> > Except possibly the plastic oil vent tower. Is there anything in there
>> > that can get loose and rattle?
>> > My other guess would be the distributor drive. Is there supposed to be
>> > only one thrust washer at the bottom? What determines the end play of
>> > the drive? (One thing that makes me wonder is that the timing seems to
>> > dither when you check it with a timing lite. Maybe moves around 4
>> > degrees or so.)
>> > If the drive had excessive end play and was smacking up against the
>> > distributor every half turn, that might be my sound! It has about the
>> > right timbre or tone, if you know what I mean.
>> > Any suggestions?
>> > Al Brase
>> > 87 GL, 80 westy, 56 pickup
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