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Date:         Wed, 7 Sep 2005 05:49:44 EDT
Reply-To:     RAlanen@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Standard Repair Times - Rings / Heads
Comments: cc: medwards1@TRIAD.RR.COM
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In a message dated 06/09/2005 12:10:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

I just got some quotes from my local mechanic and wanted to run them by the list for some feedback. He looked up repair times on the computer, not sure of the source, but I know it is a common practice for mechanics to look up common tasks for quotes. Anyway, he had to pull the heads to fix a corrosion and leak problem. This job came in at 10 hours. Apparently, removing the heads required removing the engine. I also need a new set of rings and he said this requires splitting the case, a 7.4 hour job. Obviously, now is a better time to replace the rings so I don't loose the labor already invested in pulling the engine and heads. However, I thought changing the rings could just be done by removing the cylinders. Does this sound right? Do you really have to split the case to change the rings? Also, why is it necessary to remove the engine to remove the heads? I guess I should go ahead and put in a clutch while the engine is out. Anything else? Any feedback or references to information sources appreciated.

Pulling the heads with the engine in the van is possible. Putting them back on CORRECTLY is another story. Re-ringing does not require the engine case to be split. Removing the heads does require removal of the cylinder barrels to replace the O-ring at the bottom of the cylinder barrels. That's when it best to re-ring if the barrels are still within spec. Putting the barrels and pistons back in with the engine in the van can be done but it is a major PITA so removal of the engine is a lot faster and ensures a better job. I know a lot of you suffer the punishment of doing it under the van, good for you, I will not subject myself to that indecency !

Cheers,

Frank Condelli Almonte, Ontario, Canada '87 Westy, '90 Carat & Lionel Trains Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa Valley _Frank Condelli & Associates_ (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/busindex.html) or http://frankcondelli.com _STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless Steel Mufflers_ (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/stebro.htm) _BusFusion_ (http://members.aol.com/BusFusion/bfhome.htm) a VW Camper camping event, Almonte, ON, June 09 ~ 12, 2005


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