Date:         Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:37:26 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject:      Re: 87 Westy Coolant Temp Puzzle
Comments: To: "John W. Parkins" <JParkins@RTHCORP.COM>
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I would check the little voltage regulator chip on the back of the
instrument cluster. Make sure that little heat sink, (the ground
connection), is screwed in place. It is possible the chip is allowing
full battery voltage to the gauges. In this case, the fuel level will
also read high. The t-stat should be holding things at ~87C. This is
~187F. So at 210F, your engine is running hot.

Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of John W. Parkins
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:14 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: 87 Westy Coolant Temp Puzzle

My gauge temperature sender went bad (open circuited), and temperature
always read cold. Replaced the sender. Now at normal idle, the gauge
reads
past the LED and almost up to the "hot" tick mark on the gauge. I don't
believe that the coolant is hot for the following reasons:

1. The radiator fan doesn't turn on when the needle is reading very
high,
yet turns on when I'm idling in hot weather (as I would expect).

2. The voltage at the ECU from the ECU temperature sender looks normal.
(I
have wired a breakout box to the ECU like a Digitool.)

3. I inserted a thermocouple (temperature sensor) into the reservoir
tank
(not the overflow tank of course) and it reads 210 deg F. Now, this
temperature may be a little high, but not high enough to read as high as
it
does on the gauge.

I've replaced the sender 3 times, once from a different manufacture.
They
all behave the same. I checked out a different gauge, and it behaved the
same as the one I have.

I've searched the archives many times. I only found 2 references to the
"normal" operating temperatures for the coolant; they suggested a range
from
200-210 deg F.  Can anyone else confirm this?

I see from the Bentley wiring diagram that the low level coolant
electronics
are connected to the gauge temperature sender. Could a faulty low-level
coolant circuit cause my problems?

I've been working on this for some time, and it's got me stumped. Any
suggestions?

Thank you very much.  Have enjoyed the list very much.