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Date:         Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:13:26 -0400
Reply-To:     Christopher Gronski <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Christopher Gronski <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Exciting things happening at Van-Again!
Comments: To: rrecardo@webtv.net
In-Reply-To:  <14445-432AD23A-3231@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net>
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

Chris

On 9/16/05, <rrecardo@webtv.net> wrote: > > <<Forgetting for a moment that I think you just called my van a rust > bucket (perhaps accounting for its $6,000 "price")...>> > > I'm sorry Chris, now I messed up the deal with Ben-- ~: ) > > No not just your Van. > Any 15 20 year old Van, truck, car, motorcycle, boat, whatever. > > <<I'm not complaining about rates, I'm not complaining about prices, I > am complaining about wanting it both ways when charging for a job.>> > > "When you wish upon a star" > > > <<Have a look at the van, if you don't want to charge book don't charge > book. Tell me "I'm not sure how long it will take, so I will charge you > for time"... but don't turn around and say "Oh it did not take long > enough... so rather than charge you time that was too short I am going > to charge you book instead".>> > > > How bout this concept; > > What if the mechanic tell's you he'll charge you whatever it takes. > T&M on the Van to get the work completed right. > > In other words, if the flat rate is 4 hours to R&R the exhaust system, > and because it's a 15 year old rust bucket it takes him 8 to remove and > replace all the fastener's, hanger's etc., would you be compelled to pay > him the extra time and material it took him over and above the > recommended boo time? > > Or would you be on of "those guys" that sez; > "Too bad, I ain't paying another dime, you quoted the job, this is all > I'm paying." > > <<Tell me you are charging time and stick to it,>> > > No can do. > > <<tell me you are charging book at stick to it. >> > > Can't do this either. > > > <<Do not tell me you are charging time and then switch to book because > book was higher.>> > > This is wrong, I agree that this would get anyone cranky. > But life in Vanagonland is like a box of chocolates. > You never know what your getting into with any repair. > One thing leads to another in any older vehicle that has to be repaired, > just > because of the age factor. > > So any job time is out the window. > > I took My Type 2 to VW for head work. > I knew it was an 8 hour job by the book. > They quoted me "roughly" 22 hours, simply because of the Buses age. > I knew a can of worms was going to be opened wit the word "roughly" > I did the work myself. > > I should have paid VW. > > What a Pain in the Dupa job. > >


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