Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:26:58 -0400
Reply-To: David Bohannan <fjazzbass@GMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: David Bohannan <fjazzbass@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Bellingham environs
In-Reply-To: <43380A99.7080004@charter.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Those fools! Package the methane and run their vehicles with it! :-)
Dave
On 9/26/05, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote:
>
> In Anchorage, AK years ago the powers that be decided to make a city
> garbage dump and land fill on the Merrill Field airport property. The
> idea was to fill the land, then expand the airport buildings onto the
> filled land. When the fill was complete, it was made beautiful by
> covering with soil, fertilizer, and planting grass. Really makes a
> beautiful spot. It draws Canadian geese and Brandt by the thousands
> because of the tender green grass shoots that come up in spring and
> fall. It's fund to watch the geese, but their numbers create problems
> for the aircraft operating there.
>
> Were they ever able to build there and reduce the numbers of geese?
> Nope, the authorities discovered the amount of methane gas being
> released by the decay of the garbage in the ground made the place
> explosive. Last I heard - a year or so ago - they still could not build
> there.
>
> Sometimes we know not what we do.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Rodgers
>
> Stan Wilder wrote:
>
> >We (Bellingham environs) will all be drinking bottled water in 10 years
> or
> >so and pissed off that we didn't do something earlier. We
> >
> >
> >>just can't make the behavioral adjustment to admit that certain issues
> >>
> >>
> >need attention now.
> >------------------- Clip ----------------------
> >Most research, both private and Government funded proclaim that bottled
> >water is often not as good as the local city tap water.
> >Microsoft threw DejaBlue out of their campus vending machines after it
> was
> >discovered that it was just bottled tap water (might be more to it).
> >I see bottled water as a plague worse than glass soft drink and glass
> >disposable beer bottles. The damn bottles are everywhere and nobody
> collects
> >them for recycling.
> >Who ever thought that so many Flashlight and Dry Cell batteries could
> cause
> >PCB pollution, Mercury Pollution and other major concerns.
> >Our disposable society is disposing of much enjoyment of this world by
> >future generations.
> >I know of a Golf course that was reclaimed from a sanitary land fill.
> >It's a beautiful location built on a huge pile of trash that has been
> >covered with quiality top soil, fetrtilized, watered and groomed to a
> fine
> >state of appearance.
> >Those that play the course dont see the still existant land fill over the
> >restricted hill area and get to breath all the airborne diaper dust,
> rotting
> >food molds that are sun dried to a fetitlized prime dry airborne
> particles.
> >They certainly sell a pretty picture but the nose will tell you it's a
> lie.
> >
> >Stan Wilder
> >Engine Ceramics
> >214-352-4931
> >www.engineceramics.com <http://www.engineceramics.com>
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Don Williams" <williams@FIRE.BIOL.WWU.EDU>
> >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 12:53 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>I used to think that humans were rational creatures and would take care
> of
> >>problems as they arose. It''s now apparent to me in my dotage that
> humans
> >>display very little inclination to err on the side of caution with
> respect
> >>to environmental problems.
> >>Our drinking water situation in the city of Bellingham Washington is a
> >>metaphor for global warming. This lake (Whatcom) serves as a water
> source
> >>for 80,000 and yet we have done little to preserve it. We build around
> >>
> >>
> >it,
> >
> >
> >>piss in it, swim in it, boat in it, you name. The data on various
> >>contaminents show it is declining in quality. There are also powerful
> >>economic interests that seek to continue the status quo (new
> subdivisions
> >>and shopping centers in the drainage). And the epithets that they hurl
> at
> >>those who are opposed is that they are socialists or communists or silly
> >>environmentalists or worse. The part of Human nature that is such a
> >>powerful defeating force is self-interest and it will never be
> >>contravened. We (Bellingham environs) will all be drinking bottled water
> >>in 10 years or so and pissed off that we didn't do something earlier. We
> >>just can't make the behavioral adjustment to admit that certain issues
> >>
> >>
> >need
> >
> >
> >>attention now.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > >>> >> Global warming is not scientifically PROVEN, and
> >> > >>> even if it is happening,
> >> > >>> >> so what? We have NO idea why it's happening.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> >Not altogether true. Just like in plague times,
> >> > >>> there were people who knew.
> >> > >>> >they just didn't have the political voice to
> >> > >>> convince anyone who mattered.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> The ones who claim to know are rarley chalenged.
> >> > >>> They never admit that they
> >> > >>> are wrong and when proven wrong, they can only
> >> > >>> resort to name calling.
> >> > >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
|