Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:42:25 -0400
Reply-To:     "Higginbotham, David A." <dhigginbotham@HAZENANDSAWYER.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         "Higginbotham, David A." <dhigginbotham@HAZENANDSAWYER.COM>
Subject:      Re: 82 won't start when hot
Comments: To: Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@sbcglobal.net>
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Stan writes:
<<<
The symptoms of a loose valve set are these:
The engine starts and runs just fine and may be OK several days.
Then after you've turned it off and come back to it one hour or the next
morning it's real hard to start but eventually starts, then it seems OK
for
possibly all day or even a week at a time.
Eventually the seat will drop out and hang under a valve, causing a
piston
to hit the valve and get nicked. This doesn't ruin the piston and I've
never
seen a seat drop at high RPMS. Seats tend to drop out when you first
crank a
cold engine and it just catches and runs a few RPMS.
I've made 700 mile round trips with loose valve seats and then they
dropped
first thing the next day.
I envision that the heat in the combustion expands the seats and hakes
them
viable until the aluminum head just finally abrades away and the seat is
floating there.
I've bought and "Repaired" about ten VWs, Vanagons for resale and this
is
often why Air Cooled Vanagons that are hard to start or finally just
won't
start sell so cheap. This comes after the PO has gotten taken to the
cleaners on a pair of improperly rebuilt heads and is facing another
$800.00
for a set of new heads in a box or $1200.00 + for a set of new heads
installed.
I've got one good used AMC head for $120.00 if you want it.
http://www.engineceramics.com/vw/vwparts2.htm
>>>

Thanks Stan, great info. I'll check the compression this weekend. If I
need the head I'll be in touch.