Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:42:52 -0700
Reply-To: Daryl Christensen <aatransaxle@DIRECWAY.COM>
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From: Daryl Christensen <aatransaxle@DIRECWAY.COM>
Subject: Re: transmission shifting
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Mark..
Remove linkage at tranny... move shift lever to the 2nd position a few
times...(push into the middle of throw and towards front of van) and try it
under power..If it pops..its the trans..if not its shifter ...call me if you
need help.
Daryl of AA Transaxle
Duvall, WA. (Seattle area)
1-877-377-0773 toll free
425-788-4070
aatransaxle.com
86 Syncro Westy WBXTurbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Brush" <mbrush@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: transmission shifting
Thanks all - I'm all for putting more time and money into the linkage - but
before I do that, I wanted to perform a simple test - one that would tell me
whether my problem was the transmission or the linkage: What do you all
think of this test:
With the linkage un-hooked from the transmission, crawl under the bus, and
manually shift the transmission into second. Start her up, and let off on
the clutch. If it goes, I'm good - if not - or it pops out - I'm bad.
Mark
On 10/18/05, Greenamyer, William L <william.l.greenamyer@boeing.com> wrote:
>
> There is a bushing that holds the linkage. One thing that a lot of
> people overlook is the play in this bushing. If it is worn, it can
> cause all kinds of problems, especially going into first gear hard or
> not at all. There should be no play in this bushing when trying to move
> the linkage from side to side. If there is play, you need a new
> bushing.
>
> William
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Felder [mailto:felder@KNOLOGY.NET]
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:21 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: transmission shifting
>
>
> Mark;
>
> I wasted dozens of hours over several months messing with the same
> problem on my two vanagons--simultanously. While Don is right on the
> money with what he's saying, it didn't work out that I was satisfied
> with the results of what I was doing. I always stick with it, though,
> and finally see it through, but this time was an exception. I felt I was
> endangering my gearboxes so I took them both in to a good, local VW shop
> where they have lots of experience, tools, helpers, lifts and what have
> you that I don't have at home.
>
> It cost me about $55 per car, I think, as was some of the best money I
> ever spent.
>
> Bottom line, if you get to the point you just can't crawl under there
> one more time for the same result, don't pull the transmission for a
> rebuild until you've let an experienced shop have it for an hour.
>
> Jim
> On Oct 17, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Don Williams wrote:
>
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > My experience is that linkage is enormously important and that it is
> > usually the linkage, and wrong adjustment makes you think it is the
> > transmission. At least you should work on that first since it only
> > gets
> > you dirty and angry and doesn't directly cost you money. The guides
> > to
> > the gears are on the upper part of the box that is accessed under the
> > spare tire. You can adjust the shifter by a little allen screw on the
>
> > shift so
> > that the shifting mechanism in that box is pushed up to be influenced
> > by
> > those guides. Then when you push down the shift to go into reverse,
> > you
> > are bypassing those guides.
> > The next problem is often the rod that goes back to the tranny, and
> > the
> > compression ring that allows the lateral movement of the shifter to
> > displace the vertical movement on the rod that goes into the tranny.
> > You
> > just have to play around with it (it is frustrating). Basically, a
> > tiny
> > adjustment on that ring influences whether or not a horizontal
> > movement of
> > the gear translate into engaging the gears properly. For my problem,
> > my 85
> > Westy would not go into first gear, for love or money, unless i
> pushed
> > down the shifter and bypassed the guide in that box. I thought my
> > tranny
> > was screwed up, but after dinking with it for several hours, I could
> > see
> > that if I rotated the shaft in the correct direction, I could get the
> > beast
> > in first without depressing the shift because I had increased the
> > distance
> > that the shift rod tranveled without so that I did not need to depress
> > the
> > shifter to get enough distance to go into first gear. Does that make
> > any
> > sense whatsoever??
> > Call me if it still seems weird. (360-650-3641)
> > Don
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Mark Brush <mbrush@GMAIL.COM>
> > Subject: Re: 1990 Westy - do 3 transmissions have same problem? I
> > haven't dropped the shifter box yet. I've adjusted the shifter rod so
> > tha= t
> > the lower part of the stickshift is in the right place. It doesn't
> > seem lik=
> > e
> > the stickshift hits anything in the box when in second gear.
> > With the last transmission I had, I wanted to check to see whether it
> > was
> > the transmission, or the linkage. So I un-hooked the linkage, crawled
> > under
> > the bus, and manually shifted the transmission into second. I started
> > her
> > up, and let off on the clutch, and nothing happened - so I figured I
> > had a
> > bad transmission (all the other gears engaged). Is this the best way
> to
> > check whether the problem is the trans or the linkage?
> >
>
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