Date:         Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:14:01 -0700
Reply-To:     David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
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From:         David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject:      Re: VIN with ZZZ ?
Comments: To: Malcolm Stebbins <mwstebbins@YAHOO.COM>
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It is only vehicles in Canada and the USA that do not have ZZZ.  My TriStar,
a Swedish market vehicle, is for format WV2ZZZ24Z.... is the norm outside of
North America.  These are supposed to be refered to as ENGINE, RESTRAINT and
CHECK DIGITS.  Every time I register a European vehicle in Canada the motor
vehicles people say the VIN can't posssibly be correct as the check digit is
wrong... that's because of the ZZZ thingie.

The really interesting thing is the "hidden VIN" on the North American
vehicles here DOES NOT MATCH the VIN on the dash!  At the front passenger
jack support is the vehicles VIN stamped into the sheet metal.  Your dash
might read WV2B0H245... but the "hidden VIN" will read WV2ZZZ24Z...

David Marshall

Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road
Quesnel BC Canada  V2J 6Z3

http://www.fastforward.ca    mailto:sales@fastforward.ca
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Malcolm Stebbins
Sent: October 16, 2005 12:10 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: VIN with ZZZ ?


I'm looking at a European van that the owner says has a VIN of:
WV2zzz25zng002290  I've never seen or heard of a VIN with ZZZ??

there is no such possiblity of ZZZ on the vanagon.com info sheet at:
http://www.vanagon.com/info/vin/

Any ideas?  Thanks  Malcolm




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