Date:         Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:11:01 -0400
Reply-To:     Stephen Steele <steeles@HORIZONVIEW.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stephen Steele <steeles@HORIZONVIEW.NET>
Subject:      Re: best headlight replacements?
Comments: To: RAlanen@aol.com
In-Reply-To:  <19b.3f78b71c.308f61bd@aol.com>
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Frank, et al:
I have looked at your relay kits before with the idea of at least updating
my 1989 Westy headlights to the visibility level of a round headlight
Vanagon.
Your comparison at $30 to the below posted list of $44 does not include the
headlight bulbs themselves does it?
Are your kits compatible with the stock headlights?
I like the plug n play feature of your kits over using generic connectors.
I am just trying to straighten it all out in my head before diving in,
thanks.
--
Stephen
Chillicothe OH


on 10/25/05 6:23, Frank Condelli at RAlanen@AOL.COM wrote:

> In a message dated 22/10/2005 6:10:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:
>
>> I  purchased a pair of standard relays, proper gauge wire, and the  80/100
>> watt replacements all for four headlights on my 91 Vanagon for a  total
>> cost of $44.  These are essentially the same parts used by  most retailers
>> with the exception of the relays not being manufactured  by Bosch.
>>
>> I really appreciate the additional visibility while  driving at night and
>> like the fact that I'm getting it without blinding  other drivers.
>>
>> Here's a parts list and the places where I got  the parts.  I'd rate this
>> job as very simple and I'm electrically  challenged!
>>
>> Desc Units  Unit Price   Total  Price  Vendor
>>
>> HL78179 9004/HB1 100/80w Replacement Bulb -  2 - $10.75 - $21.50
>> http://www.rallylights.com/
>>
>> 78140Y  H3 110W Yellow Star Replacement Bulb - 2 - $8.06 -  $16.12
>> http://www.rallylights.com/
>>
>> 12V 30/40A RELAYS W/  DUAL SOCKET & 5 WIRE HARNESS - 1 - $3.98 -  $3.98
>> http://stores.ebay.com/12-Volt-Parts
>>
>> 24" 12# Brown  Wire 1
>> 24" 12# Red Wire 1
>> 12# Female Spade Connectors - 16 -  $0.15 -  $2.40
>> _______________________________________________________
>> TOTAL  COST    $44.00
>
>
>
> Yes, and you saved what ?  I sell basically  the same thing with a BOSCH
> relay, in kit ready to plug in format for $30, $14  less than what you
> indicate
> and no running to a gazillion places for the  pieces.  See my _Vanagon
> Headlamp
> Relay Upgrade_ (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/hdltrela.htm)  webpage.  Yes, I
> know, the kit for the '86 ~ '91  Vanagons is more due to the VW specific relay
> holder which can be neatly clipped  Lego style to your existing fuse box !
> You can use the other kit no  problem and just tie wrap the relay holder to
> some wires.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Frank  Condelli
> Almonte, Ontario, Canada
> '87 Westy, '90 Carat, '87 Wolfsburg  (Forsale) & Lionel Trains
> Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the Ottawa  Valley
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