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Date:         Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:49:09 -0500
Reply-To:     Wil Haslup <wil@CHARMFX.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Wil Haslup <wil@CHARMFX.COM>
Subject:      Re: serial hybrid conversion?
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Andrew Grebneff wrote: > The good thing about a separate motor and charging system is that the > engine can be positioned in any location, in any orientation, in > which it will fit. It doesn't need to be connected to a transmission. > It needs to be powerful enough to run the charging system, but no > more than that. A supercharger of any kind is probably unnecessary > complication.

I would think so....a simple motor with less to break that manages to generate the necessary charge is enough.

I'm thinking a good charging motor might integrate the biggest part of the power generation hardware into the design rather than driving a belt/chain or shaft to an alternator/generator.

...some sort of turbine? burning biodiesel or any suitable fuel?

low maintenance, cheap fuel.

> A single high-torque low-revving induction motor (printed circuit > design for lightness?) would be ideal for conversion using the stock > driveline, and of course would not need a clutch. It would not > require reverse gear either, if the motor was reversible. If the > motor was grunty enough it could run at low rpm but also be capable > of high rpm, in which case you might not need to use the gears at all > (just leave it in first), though if the gears WERE needed, then a > clutch would be necessary to unload the gears for shifting... or else > you could convert the trans to nonsynchromesh dog-type gears > (motorcycles have these, and you only need the clutch for in-gear > idling or moveng off from a standstill).

as mentioned in my previous mail, some of the efficiency gain is from removing the existing drive train....because you lose some power in the transmission/trans axle/differential of a traditional car. Putting smaller high torque motors on 2 or 4 wheels increases efficiency and could allow for kinetic recovery.

--

Wil

-- http://www.charmfx.com/

"I passionately hate the idea of being with it, I think an artist has always to be out of step with his time." -- Orson Welles


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