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Date:         Thu, 1 Dec 2005 19:54:25 -0700
Reply-To:     dusty edwards <dusty.edwards@MAC.COM>
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From:         dusty edwards <dusty.edwards@MAC.COM>
Subject:      Re: sucks in snow!
Comments: To: Hans Achter <hansachter@HOTMAIL.COM>
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i said earlier that i had the C2, but in fact i have the CS. it's an all-season, ,yet still has the all-weather symbol that i spoke of earlier - allowing you to pass in weather where you would otherwise be required to have chains.

if you're in the denver area, i know exactly where to get these.

these tires are one of the best purchases that i've made since i've had my westy. i usually don't respond to the typical tire posts b/c i'm very biased. these tires are incredible! On Dec 1, 2005, at 6:20 PM, Hans Achter wrote:

> There are a few different models of Hakkas. > The C series tires are made for delivery vans (C is for Commercial), > and are a perfect tire for > vanagons. > I used to see three in this series, the CS, CQ, C2, but now I don't > see the CS anymore. > The C2 is listed as a year-round tire, maybe only in northern climes. > I run Hakka C2 tires in 195R14 and I agree they are one of the best > snow tires you can get. > -Hans > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alistair Bell" <albell@UVIC.CA> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:01 PM > Subject: Re: sucks in snow! > > >> Mark writes good :) >> >> to add some reinforcement, get the Hakkapeliitas , studded, all 4. >> Really, they do work, and it is cheap insurance if you plan on driving >> much at all in snow with a 2wd Vanagon. >> >> Alistair >> >> PS while i only use my studded Hakkapeliitas when needed, others have >> noted that they do wear well and will last even year round (the studs >> won't however, and can't be re-studded I believe) >> >> >> '82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94 >> http://www.members.shaw.ca/albell/ >> >> >> Mark Tuovinen wrote: >> >>> Cindy, >>> >>> If you are going to be driving in snow on a regular basis then invest >>> in some good tires. I highly recommend Nokian Hakkapeliita C2 tires, >>> especially for those that are not allowed to use studs. I have >>> driven >>> a number of different vehicles over the years with nonstudded tires, >>> including Blizzaks, Arctic Alpins, NRW's, and many brands of studded >>> tires as well. Studded tires beat nonstudded tires everytime, but if >>> you can't legally run them then the Nokians are the next best thing. >>> The next most important item for snow and ice is the nut behind the >>> steering wheel, a bad driver can get the best equipped vehicle stuck >>> and a competent driver will go places on summer tires that you would >>> think were impossible. Start by adding weight to your van over or >>> just in front of the rear tires. I prefer it just in front of the >>> tires as too much weight in the rear will reduce your ability to >>> steer, just ask the sign I ran over years ago, it did not move when I >>> honked my horn as I ran i >>> t down. Further proof that both halves of the teenage brain are not >>> connected. You also may need to plan your route and adjust your >>> driving behavior. Chose routes that minimize or avoid hills, >>> especially ones that you will have to stop on or at the top and/or >>> bottom of. The area just before an intersection gets very slippery >>> from snow being melted by the heat coming off engines, exhaust >>> systems, and friction from tires. Because of this it may be >>> necessary >>> to stay to the side of the road or lane as much as possible, this >>> keeps your tires out of the trough made by the cars in front of you >>> and is often less slippery. On side streets or low traffic main >>> roads >>> you can, assuming no oncoming traffic or police in the area, either >>> do >>> a rolling stop or stop short of the intersection which gives you a >>> chance for better traction and room to build momentum to get you >>> through it. A light touch on the gas pedal is a must, spinning tires >>> do not have traction. The more you drive in sn >>> ow the better at it you will become if you think about what you are >>> doing and how your vehicle is handling. My daily driver is a 1990 >>> Jeep Cherokee with all-season tires, it has been in 4whl drive for no >>> more then 1/2 a mile this winter, and most of that was just so that I >>> would not delay other drivers while trying to cross an intersection >>> on >>> a hill in two wheel drive. My daily driving does not include any >>> major hills so I do not have studs on the Jeep. My wife drives more >>> every day so her Audi Quattro has studded Nokian Hakkapeliita's on >>> it, >>> I consider them to be cheap insurance. >>> >>> Mark in Ak since 1969 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Cindy Taykowski <JUNAMOSS@MSN.COM> >>> Date: Thursday, December 1, 2005 10:48 am >>> Subject: sucks in snow! >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> >>> >>>> Hi >>>> I have heard it before. Some have no trouble in the snow. What's >>>> the secret? I am completely stuck in nearly no snow. 4 inches last >>>> night to be precise. I shovel, I use salt, kitty litter and well I >>>> get stuck in the street. >>>> help. >>>> cindy >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> |___|_|_|__\ |___|__-|-__| "(o)-----(o)--"


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