Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 22:07:07 -0500
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From: robertmstewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
Subject: Re: possessive about your new ride?? Mac vs. PC
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Sorry but as a Mac professional I just had to jump on this one:
1. yes many pc users are switching. It's a fact.
http://www.techspot.com/news/19348-A-million-PC-users-switch-to-mac.html
"A million PC users switch to Mac?
by Justin Mann on Mon 07 Nov 2005, 06:04 PM
With original estimates of 500,000 Windows users switching to Mac, it was a
surprise to Needham & Co that apparently over a million former Windows users
switched to Mac hardware in 2005. Regardless of the reasoning behind the
switches, it's obvious that people are warming up to the idea of OS X and
expensive (relatively) Mac hardware."
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/20/1829236&tid=174&tid=3
400,000 Windows Users Switch To Mac
Posted by timothy on Wed Jul 20, '05 02:17 PM
"bonch writes "Analyst Charles Wolf of Needham & Co. wrote that 400,000
Windows users have moved to Macintosh, citing factors like the fabled iPod
halo effect and the desire to escape the Windows virus epidemic. Mac
shipments rose 35 percent, three times the rate of the PC market, with sales
expected to surpass 45 percent in the current quarter. Quote: 'Assuming that
Mac shipments would have been flat year-over-year, these percentage
increases imply that about 200,000 Windows users purchased Macs in both the
second and third fiscal quarters.'"
(if you notice the number changed from July to Nov by 100,000)
You know, I really could care less if the pc people switch, there are plenty
of Mac users out there which are loyal and will always support Apple.
To put it simply Apple's OS and just better, many industry experts agree,
they just do not have the support of the large financial corporations as
they have billions invested in there old pc Intel/IBM hardware and hence the
reason why Apple is now switching to Intel.
Apple has had this planned for years since it began OSX, they always had
planned a slow and successive intrusion into the PC world. Within the next 5
years you will notice the OSX Operating system everywhere with many
corporations switching and as well as personal PC users. They will have the
choice of freedom on their new Mac's to run OSX, Linux or Windows in
conjunction with their OSX.
It will be an interesting time ahead of us. They are the innovators, there
is no other company that can do what they do, hence there success with the
iPod,
Just my two cents, not worth much but a blip on your radar.
All the best to the pc, Linux users out there, now can't we all just get
along?
> "Lots of people are moving from Windoze to Mac"
>
> Yeah right. What is the percentage 5%? 6%? Big whoop.
>
> Besides, I was talking about Linux, not Windows. What are you smoking down
> there in Kiwi-land?
>
> Get your facts right before you go off half-cocked (or perhaps that's the
> best you can do...).
>
> Happy, happy, joy, joy,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
> Of Andrew Grebneff
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:36 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: possessive about your new ride??
>
>
>> Go after Macs?
>>
>> Why bother with a bottom dwelling OS? They'd be far better off going after
>> a REAL OS like Linux...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jeff
>
>
> What planet do you live on, Jeff?
>
> Lots of people are moving from Windoze to Mac... and never look back.
> On the other hand, have you ever heard of the reverse happening? Ever
> wondered why? Ever even TRIED a Mac?
>
> I have a Mac 6116CD (no longer my daily-use computer)... it's more
> than 10 years old. I can still get software for it. I can boost its
> memory, HD speed/capacity and can upgrade it to a fast G3 or G4
> (though it has only a 240mHz processor fitted). It is stable,
> friendly, easy to use... a really GOOD computer. Now, tell me that a
> 10-year-old Windoze/whatever box is even usable now??
>
> Windoze is the bottom-feeder. It is a horrific mess of ancient
> software (that was crap when it was new), to which over the years has
> been added more and more crap software... until not even the MS
> "gurus" know what's in there! That's NO way to do an OS. No wonder
> Windoze computers are difficult-to-use and crash constantly... to the
> point of needing frequent OS reinstallation. But then, it's Bill
> Gates & Co... Even Acorn is better.
>
> A useful quote to remember, from the New York Times dated 26-11-1991:
> "Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq, Tandy
> and millions of others are by far the most popular, with about 70
> million machines in use worldwide.
> "Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that cockroaches
> are far more numerous than humans and that numbers alone do not
> denote a higher life form."
>
> This is just as applicable now.
>
> Mac OSes have always been good (as good as software gets, anyway),
> the platform is very much faster than a Windoze unit of "equivalent"
> speed, are resistant to crashing and do noit become corrupted as does
> Windoze. And Mac hardware has always been far better quality than
> nonMac. This is reflected in resale values... lookit laptops. A
> 2-year-old Windoze laptop is virtually worthless. Computer resellers
> usually pay ~25% of the new value for a Windoze unit and 90% for a
> Mac.
>
> Mac OS10 is of course Unix. And I hate it!
>
> There's a really good reason behind the saying "Friends don't let
> friends do Windows".
> --
> Andrew Grebneff
> Dunedin
> New Zealand
> Fossil preparator
> <andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
> Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut
>
> HUMANITY: THE ULTIMATE VON NEUMANN MACHINE
>
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