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Date:         Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:19:12 -0800
Reply-To:     mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA
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From:         David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Organization: Fast Forward Automotive
Subject:      Re: Those dreaded 9 words...
Comments: To: Michael Diehr <md03@XOCHI.COM>
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Well... few things to look at. What do you use it for and how long do you really want to drive a Vanagon? If the answer is that you use it for everything and want to keep it for five plus years then dropping 8K on an engine conversion is worth it.

I am assuming that you do not have any payments on the van now, so what is 8000 over five years... that would be sixty payments of around $150 assuming some interest. At the end of those five years, what do you have? I think the answer should be a TDI Vanagon that runs well and it's worth 10.000+, Now, buy an 8000 car, drive it for five years - if it will last that long - and what do you have... a 2000 or 3000 car.... I'd rather not loose money myself! To me, a Toyota is a cookie cutter vehicle, nobody loves them, takes them to shows where other people ooogle over them - where's the fun in that?

David Marshall

Fast Forward Automotive Inc. 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3

Internet: http://www.fastforward.ca Email: sales@fastforward.ca

- Engine Conversions and Accessories for classic water-cooled Volkswagens - Electrical harness fabrication and customization

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Michael Diehr Sent: December 8, 2005 8:29 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Those dreaded 9 words...

"Honey, I think we should consider selling the Vanagon?"

Pardon? "Shelving" the vanagon? No honey, it's got shelves in it already. And besides, why would we want to work on the interior when the engine is dead....the engine...the engine is dead....it's dead. Uh oh. That's not what you said, is it? What did you say exactly?

It could happen to you. The fear. Those words...echoing in your head.

How do I convince my sig.other that spending $4k to $8k on a engine rebuild/fix/swap actually is a good idea. This is, after all, a 20 year old car with 150k miles on it. I think she's still mad over the 24 hours spent broken down in the middle of nowhere on our last vacation. She's also concerned about global warming. And societal breakdown. So I'm thinking maybe start with the TDI conversion running biodiesel (reliable and good for the environment) and then negotiate from there? Maybe the idea that the vanagon could be up-armored a lot easier than a Camry, and we'd probably look silly driving a Camry with mohawks and crossbows?

Help me out here!

:-)


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