Date:         Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:43:57 EST
Reply-To:     Oxroad@AOL.COM
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From:         Jeff Oxroad <Oxroad@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Pzwo lower grille foglights NLA
Comments: To: motorbruce@hotmail.com
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In a message dated 12/14/2005 11:23:11 AM Pacific Standard Time,
motorbruce@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

Best of  all, I can drive around town all day (and night)
and not a single driver  will flash their lights at me. That says to me that
these lights do not  interfere with other drivers.

Unfortunatley there's no universal signal for "your fog lights are
obstructing my vision." But trust me they are.

And, the thing is if one flashes their highbeams at the guy with his fog
lights on in the SUV, or I dare say Vanagon--even breifly in a friendly reminder
kind of way--he or she often feels the need to BLAST his or her high  beams
at the victim to prove to the victim he or she doesn't have  his or her high
beams on-- this, causing a worse visibility condition than  the one that began
the whole misguided communication thing. Then it leads to  road rage. And
before you know it there's a murder. (I'm speaking from an LA  perspective.)


And it's not just me those fog lights are annoying, it's everyone who is  not
in another "truck." That is everyone except higher vehicles like SUVs, pick
ups and Vanagons. An arguably they may be an annoyance to the bigger  vehicles
as well.


When I'm driving my sedan, whether the fog lights are behind me or coming  at
me, they are either obsructing vision or at a bare minimum annoying. It's a
matter of common sense.

And while I personally find the unecessary fog light behaviour annoying, I
do not mean to attack those of you who use them in this manner personally. I am
 attacking the deed.

There's nothing illegal about using them all the time, day, night, parked.
But know that you are bothering and imparing the visibility of other drivers
when you have them on. Waiting for someone to react to an annoying  behavioiur
is really more a test of their patience.

Best,
Jeff
83.5 Westy
LA,CA