Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:32:14 -0900
Reply-To: Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
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From: Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
Subject: Re: removing frozen lug nuts / bolts ?
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Dennis,
I respect your knowledge, particulary as it applies to vanagons. Your input when list members put forth their questions always makes sense and reflects an understanding that can only come from years of experience. However I do disagree with your opinion on the use of Anti-Seize on lug nuts or bolts. I know plenty of technicians locally that have used it without a problem for decades, I have on occasion applied it myself. Do you have any data to back up your assertion that the torque needs to be reduced when using it?
Here most people remove their rims twice a year for the removal and installation of snow tires and I have NEVER seen anyone replace their lugnuts as a consumable item. I do sell more lug nuts and wheel studs in the Spring and Fall, but not a huge amount, just enough to cover the ones stripped, broken, cross threaded, or lost by the underpaid and over worked technicians employed at the local tire vendors. At the rate that you mention most people in my area would be purchasing new nuts every two years and I should be selling a lot more of them then I currently do.
Again, I am not trying to offend or start a flame war, just relaying my experiences on this topic, and seeking to learn more from anothers perspective.
Mark in AK
Assistant Parts Manager
Continental Honda
Continental Acura
P S I love the trailer hitch, just wish that summer wasn't another 5 1/2 months away so I could use it
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Date: Friday, December 16, 2005 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: removing frozen lug nuts / bolts ?
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Anti- Seize on lug nuts or bolts? Now there's a recipe for disaster.
> When using lubricants of this type, the torque needs to be reduced by
> some 40 to 50% to keep the stud or bolt from being over stretched. Lug
> nuts are consumables and should be replaced after 3-5 times of
> use. The
> German stuff seems very forgiving. The Japanese and American stuff is
> not.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> BehalfOf Sudhir Desai
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 1:22 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: removing frozen lug nuts / bolts ?
>
> I would use a cheater bar, but I let my friend borrow it to work on
> his '73 chevy pickup. :/ Looks like I'll be driving over to his place
> later if I still can't get the bolt/stud's free.
>
> For the lug nuts themselves, I usually wire wheel them clean, dump
> them in degreaser for an hour or so , and then liberally apply
> anti-seize. :D
>
> sudhir
>
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