Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:07:22 -0800
Reply-To: Doug F <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
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From: Doug F <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
Subject: Re: Pzwo lower grille foglights NLA
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Typically fog lamps light up the "sides" of the road in a wide flat fan
pattern that should be aimed well below oncoming windshields.
If you see a car oncoming with properly aimed fogs you should only see the
lamp as lit but no light aimed at you.
Like looking into a flashlight from the side at night.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DaveC" <davec2468@AIM.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Pzwo lower grille foglights NLA
> Solitary fog lights (without main lights on) are purpose-function lights.
If it's foggy out, great. If it's not foggy out and they are on in addition
to the main lamps, they are in violation of NZ law, and in the USA I'm not
sure, but I certainly will flash my lights at them.
>
> Simply by the fact that both sets of lights are on means that more light
is reaching my eyes (don't care how sharp cutoff is; the reason they have
turned on both lights -- other than mistake -- is to increase the amount of
light projected in front of the vehicle). There is no excuse for this. There
is no such thing as "More light output without more light reaching the
oncoming drivers".
>
> Dave
>
> -=-=-=-
>
> >Say what? True fog lights are mounted low, have a strong top cutoff
> >and are designed to illuminate the road surface and not the fog
> >particles in front of your face. (Hence the top cutoff.)
> >
> >As to your leaving your high beams on Until the "offending" vehicle
> >passes... well Andrew, that makes you the deliberate offender. Not only
> >is it, as you stated "downright dangerous", it's downright stupid. Now
> >you have two vision impaired drivers heading for each other at highway
> >speeds. Brilliant solution. (No pun intended.)
> >On Saturday, December 17, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Automatic digest
> >processor wrote:
> >
> >>Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:48:10 +1300
> >>From: Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
> >>Subject: Re: Pzwo lower grille foglights NLA
> >>
> >>I second that. Some so-called foglights (tack-on aftermarket marker
> >>lights) are not vision-affecting, but true foglights ARE. They are
> >>aligned parallel with the road surface, NOT dipped, and have no top
> >>beam cutoff. They are designed for use in fog ONLY. Not ads
> >>additional headlights.
> >>
> >>>And, the thing is if one flashes their highbeams at the guy with his
> >>>fog
> >>>lights on in the SUV, or I dare say Vanagon--even breifly in a
> >>>friendly reminder
> >>>kind of way--he or she often feels the need to BLAST his or her high
> >>>beams
> >>>at the victim to prove to the victim he or she doesn't have his or
> >>>her high
> >>>beams on-- this, causing a worse visibility condition than the one
> >>>that began
> >>>the whole misguided communication thing. Then it leads to road rage.
> >>>And
> >>>before you know it there's a murder. (I'm speaking from an LA
> >>>perspective.)
> >>
> >>I have taken to just putting my high-beams on and leaving them there
> >>until the offending vehicle has passed by.
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