Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:31:49 -0500
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From: Milo's Kitchen <sagmoore@ZOOMINTERNET.NET>
Subject: Re: Gas Tank Restore
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My question is for Ron of Bus Depot,
When vendor replacement tanks are sold, (and I have one from Bus Depot), how
the heck is this existing screen / filter transferred, and / or why aren't
they for sale from list vendors.
I cut my old tank apart (it was leaking from the front seam). There was no
filter inside as depicted in this post, and putting it in (the fuel screen
cartridge / hoses) through the fuel level sender hole would be problematic
at best. I know my small hand and arm won't fit.
Dave
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
Gerald Masar
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:46 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Gas Tank Restore
Good photos! I've not looked inside of one, but I am sure that hose has to
connect with the outlet. And that's probably why, when you get the tank off,
no gas drains from the outlet.
I recently dropped the tank on my '88 Westy and the leak was coming from a
broken cross-over tube. The tank was in good condition, so I gave it a quick
paint job and re-installed it.
The condition of the tank will of course depend on where you live, the salt
belt or the southwest.
I would think you definitely need the screen. You could have a lot of crud
in the tank, but with the gas constantly sloshing around, it won't
accumulate on the screen, whereas a filter would clog.
Just my thoughts.
Jerry
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From: "Michael Edwards" <medwards1@TRIAD.RR.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:05 PM
Subject: Gas Tank Restore
I have to drop the gas tank on my 87 to fix the typical leak when full.
Since I'm going to already have it out, I want to clean it up, paint it and
put a liner in it so I don't have to worry about it again for a while. A
fellow list member suggested the
POR-15 sealer kit and the how-to instructions found at
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/FuelTankRestoration.html
However, when a local shop recently went to have it lined, they were told it
couldn't be done because of a screen inside the tank. Well I finaly got my
hands on a doner to do a little pre-investigation. I was suprised to see
the screen was not something at the outlet pipe but rather a round plastic
thing in the bottom with a hose running from it. I managed to take some
pictures looking in from the sending guage hole and posted them here.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=250205
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=250207
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=250208
Now I'm totally confused. The green hose comming off the screen is only
about 6" long and doesn't seem to go anywhere.
Is this hose supposed to somehow connect to the outlet pipe? Seems like
this is the only way to ensure the gas drawn out passed through the screen.
Otherwise I don't see a purpose for it?
Am I missing the rest of my hose and some sort of connection on the other
end?
Is this screen really needed?
What about just putting in the liner and letting it cover the screen?
One option I considered if I don't use the screen is to install an inline
filter between the tank and the pump. Another list member noted that
pre-pump filters can cause problems if they get clogged such as vapor lock,
fuel starvation and all sorts of inconsistent running problems. I guess you
could mitigate this by changing the filter often.
Any insight appreciated. I'm not really sure where to go from here. I
guess one option if the tank itself isn't leaking is to replace the
cross-over pipe and seals and leave the actual tank for a later day. I'd
much prefer to restore a good used tank if possible than buy a new one. My
understanding is the only new ones available are made in China and is prone
to rust quickly.
Thanks,
Mike
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