Date:         Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:33:51 -0500
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject:      Re: No, but here's a good reason to do it
Comments: To: Doug F <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <003501c6245c$dd708d90$1102a8c0@ibmt23def>
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

What about pusher motor homes? Motor homes get only a few seat belts.
Mine can sleep 7 on beds but it only has 4 seat belts. There are no air
bags or other passive restraints. Heck, not even a front bumper. And it
is 2004.

When it comes to the VW Bus, they have always pushed the limits to wait
as long as possible when it comes to safety. An example is the "J" bead
safety wheel. The beetles got them in '68. The busses didn't get them
until '71. Manufacturers do not make products any safer than they have
to unless there is a marketing benefit. That is where lawyers and
plaintiffs get their opportunities.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Doug F
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:48 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: No, but here's a good reason to do it

Good read, a bit "legal" and difficult to translate into English but
quite
interesting.

Making a case that the VW was negligent by putting the engine in the
back,
to me is like saying Harley is negligent for not protecting you on a
motorcycle or the Mini is negligent for being small.

Goes to show lawyers well make a case against anybody at anytime, about
anything so long as it makes CASH.

Their claim that VW changed the design to front engine Eurovan because
they
"knew" the rear engine was unsafe displays this in spades. What about
the
911, or Boxster, or any other mid engine sports car like the Ferr, or
Lamb,
Maz all with mid engine, hey thats unsafe and they should be sued for
it.

What about "pusher" motorhomes? Greyhound busses.

Gawd.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geza Polony" <gezapolony@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 7:18 PM
Subject: No, but here's a good reason to do it


> Grim, but real.
>
> http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/getopn.pl?OPINION=98-1812.01A
>
> I'm thinking of installing them myself.
>
> Let us know how it goes...