Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:46:32 -0800
Reply-To: Bruce Nadig <motorbruce@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Bruce Nadig <motorbruce@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: FS: '91 Syncro SVX Ebay
In-Reply-To: <43EA3524.6050707@mchsi.com>
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Having done an involved engine/transmission conversion ('87 Porsche 3.2
liter Carrera engine and G50 5-speed) I can easily believe that the seller
of this Vanagon has $20,000+ invested, and that probably doesn't include any
labor. I probably have about $30k total into my Vanagon (that number
reflects engine/transmission, CV joints, axles, stub axles, oil cooler,
customer oil cooler lines, modification to accommodate a/c, SA grill, Ceibie
H4s, ProjektZwo fogs, Bilstein shocks, K&N springs, Porsche wheels, wheel
adaptors, SA big brake kit, etc.).
My Vanagon was not viewed as an investment, but rather a labor of love. As
for the paint work, from what I understand, the seller needs to sell to
cover college tuition, etc., not invest even more money into a quality paint
job (one that ya'll wouldn't complain about would be expensive).
I have no clue what the reserve is/was. This looks like a great van for the
person that is not mechanically inclined to do the work themselves.
Disclaimer: I have no association with the seller or his Vanagon. Just my
2¢.
Cheers,
Bruce
motorbruce
motorbruce@hotmail.com
>From: Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@MCHSI.COM>
>Reply-To: Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@MCHSI.COM>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: FS: '91 Syncro SVX Ebay
>Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 12:15:00 -0600
>
> I do not disagree with a lot of what is being said. The vehicle as
>presented is "uneven" at best. If he already has $20k invested, why not
>spend the extra $10 and get the rattle can paint that matches? (Or spend
>a few hundred and have a pro do a few hour touch up with proper prep.)
>There's a lot of blue sky between the $3 rattle can and a resto quality
>paint job.
>And about the $20k: I think he's wanting to get paid shop rate for
>learning time. Maybe $60-80 per hour. Or someone charged him shop rates.
>Maybe I'd revise my estimate down, but I think $!2k might be a
>reasonable price.
> And one other thing: I'd never even consider buiyng such a thing
>without seeing it in the flesh or get a money -back guarantee and
>feeling good about the person that had to give me back my money.
>Not even good photos and compare with seeing it with one's own eyes.
> I once bought a Porsche Speedster for $1700 sight unseen. Words
>cannot describe the shock I felt upon seeing it the first time. I think
>we took off 3 five gallon buckets of bondo covering the rust. (We still
>have the car.)
>See it for real.
>Then bid.
>Al Brase
>
>John Bange wrote:
>
>>On 2/8/06, John Carpenter <Trvlr2001@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I gotta pipe in on this....
>>>Don't smell right to me...
>>>my 2 cents.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>He says he's a VW mechanic with 30 years experience, so mechanically it's
>>probably sound. The rust spot "repairs" that amount to spraying with a
>>rattle can, that's less than impressive. The real problem he's having
>>selling it is illustrated by his comment here:
>>"I have over $20,000 invested in this SVX Syncro and therefore the reserve
>>is High."
>>He wants his investment back! (cue audience laughter)
>>Judging by his previous Samba ads, the reserve is probably no less than
>>$18K. $18K might fly for a westy, but I think it's a bit steep for the
>>plain
>>vanilla Syncro with rubber floor mats and non-opening wing windows. I have
>>a
>>non-Syncro base model just like it, and let me tell you, the interior is
>>best described as "stark". So maybe a low-mileage syncro drivetrain and a
>>subaru H-6 is worth 20 big ones, but I just don't feel it, man.
>>
>>
>>--
>>John Bange
>>'90 Vanagon - "Geldsauger"
>>
>>
>>
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