Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:37:12 -0500
Reply-To: ROBERT DONALDS <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
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From: ROBERT DONALDS <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: Firewood
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John
When we raced the VW engines in the formula Vee class SCCA we had a fire
bottle in the car with a chemical called purple K designed for magnesium
fires
I never had to try it
junk case anyone
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers" <inua@charter.net>
To: "ROBERT DONALDS" <donalds1@verizon.net>
Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Firewood
> Magnesium - once lit - will burn under water. Heat is so intense and
> chemical reaction so fierce that it splits the oxygen from the water
> molecule for it's own use in combustion. Tough to fight a fire like that
> with water. CO2 extinguishers don't work very well either. The intensity
> of the chemical reaction in the magnesium is such that it also splits off
> the oxygen from the carbon in the CO2 and consumes it. Carbon is the
> leftover byproduct of magnesium combustion and it makes a heck of a carbon
> soot mess. The intensity of the cold of a discharging CO2 extinguisher
> might chill the magnesium sufficiently to reduce and then snuff the
> flame, but I would not count on it. I can't say I have ever seen a
> magnesium fire extinguished successfully- it only went out when it burned
> itself out.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Rodgers
> 88 GL Driver
>
>
> ROBERT DONALDS wrote:
>
>> I machine the bug cases so I have magnesium flakes that collect over time
>> one night I took a large hand full out into the ally and lit it on fire
>> not
>> very impressive until I kicked it with my boot it then lighted up the
>> ally
>> like daylight and then some funny what a little sturring will do
>> water will not put this out
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Collins" <wb6otg@INTREX.NET>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:00 AM
>> Subject: Re: Firewood
>>
>>
>>> >Wood is nice, but I highly recommend burning an engine case (ala
>>>
>>>> Burning Van 06).
>>>
>>>
>>> Just make sure no one throws water on it! Someone did that the last
>>> time
>>> they burned one at Everybus. (I think that's part of the reason it was
>>> the
>>> LAST time)
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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