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Date:         Fri, 17 Feb 2006 20:50:37 -0500
Reply-To:     rsf <feller@CARBONCOW.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         rsf <feller@CARBONCOW.COM>
Subject:      Re: PayPal Scam phising/spoofs  (NVC)
Comments: To: JordanVw@AOL.COM
In-Reply-To:  <297.5b6571d.31277243@aol.com>
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NOT using paypals because someone else is scamming is strange logic IMHO. Do you not use cash because someone makes counterfeit that could wind up in your pocket and cost you money if found? Simply being an educated consumer and slowing down enough to determine if something seems logical (why would then send me something requesting my username/password?) and the URL of the pages are correct. If there is truly a concern always going in the front door of the main URL www.paypals.com makes sense. I've been using paypals since day one with no concerns. The biggest concerns are goofy buyers/sellers that don't understand the system and tell me things like use all caps when entering email addresses and such!

All you simply have to do when you get something that looks suspicious is look at the URL the website sends you to. You will always see it takes you to some third world country when you click on the link that tells you to enter your username/password.

And for those sellers that gripe that it costs money to sell simply mark up your item a few percent so you can sleep at night. The buyer (such as me) would rather know that a private seller is using a legitimate system such as Paypals rather then sending certified checks and money orders which are prone to bigger scams and delay shipping for weeks at times!

But I still want to do business with you Chris

IMHO Shawn

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of JordanVw@AOL.COM Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:39 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: PayPal Scam phising/spoofs (NVC)

i just recieved another email from "paypal".. these scam emails are realistic, this particular one actually used my full name... i forwarded it to spoof@paypal.com, they do nothing about it...just send a form automated letter reply..saying its a spoof...who know is anyone actually there looked at it or not. the tricky thing is that it looks so real, there is no way to tell if its real or fake..copy and pasting the link provided sent me to a official looking "paypal" page with official looking paypal graphics..where they were requesting my password, etc... even the links on the page took you to actual paypal links.. it was so well done that its hard to distinguish real from fake.. this is another reason i dont use paypal..

chris _____________fwd:_________________

Subj: Final Notice to Accept Policy Update to Prevent Account Limitation Date: 2/17/06 2:59:24 AM Eastern Standard Time From: service@paypal.com To: XXXXXXXXX@XXXXX.com Sent from the Internet (Details)

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PayPal values you as a customer and does not want you to lose the valuable benefits of your account. To accept the policy now, click or copy and paste the link below. Next, log in to your account and click the New Policy Update link on your Account Overview page.

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Thank you for using PayPal! The PayPal Team --------------------------------snip----------------------------------


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