Date:         Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:41:55 -0800
Reply-To:     Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: "Stealth" mishaps: WAS Are pop-up tops really necessary??
Comments: To: Doug F <vanagon@astound.net>
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 RE: Westy in a 'tent' camp site.
This particular mental disconnect occurs in a lot of campgrounds.  I've been
involved in long, polite discussions with park rangers in both Washington
and Oregon on this subject and their hands are tied, in both states it's not
just the rules or interpretations, it's actually the law.  This subject
comes up often when WetWesties plans a gathering.  We would like to double
up in the campsites but even though the posted campground rules say that a
second car (as part of the same camping group) is allowed at one site they
then say that the second vehicle can't have 'sleeping accommodations' in it,
that's a second RV.  The law is written to handle big RV's or auto/tent
campers and forget that the Class B campers like our Westfalias and ASI's
are out there.  The rangers admit that the law doesn't make sense, sharing
sites (or using a tent site to dry camp in a Westy) minimizes impact and
maximizes usage (when the campground is filling up).  We've even asked them
"What about a covered pickup with the entire back end set up with stove, bed
and porta pottie?" and that would be allowed!