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Date:         Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:39:19 -0600
Reply-To:     Raceingcajun <raceingcajun47@BELLSOUTH.NET>
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From:         Raceingcajun <raceingcajun47@BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject:      Re: brake line fix but safe
Comments: To: Jonce Fancher <streetbugs@WHISPLLC.COM>
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Hi Jonce,

Your right, this is one of those Fix it right, things we been talking about lately. The right way of course, replace the tubing completely, connection to connection. Using only "Seamless Steel Tubing". I don't recommend splicing brake tubing anytime................but, if you must. The proper way is to find a rust free, straight, smooth, section of the old tubing. Where you can get at it easily., and wont have to bend the new section. You don't want any kinks. Using a tubing cutter, not a hacksaw, cut the tubing so the end is as close to 90" as possible. Take a piece of emery cloth and clean the tubing back about an inch or so, making sure no debits get into the tubing.. Slide a "Flared Male Tubing Nut" one the line, threads facing out. Now you don't have to use Metric fittings as long as all the fitting are the same in your splice. Metric may be hard to find in your area. Then take a piece of the old tubing to your local "FLAPS", and match it as closely as you can with ASE. Again metric would be best, but the splice section size can be SAE, as long as the size is a very close match, 5/16 to 8 mm and so on. Just remember: Brake Quality, Steel, Seamless Tubing!!! Also you can buy ready made sections of brake tubing with the fittings already installed. Just make sure to match the fittings all around. And that it is Brake tubing, there is a difference! Use a "Double Flaring Tool", to flare both the ends of the old tubing, where you made your cut out. You may be able to rent this or borrow it at the FLAPS. (I have a Snap-On, or Bluepoint, its a very good tool. A little pricy for a one time job, but very easy to use and you'll have it next time. Just follow the instructions on box closely) Use a connecting nut (I didn't call this a UNION for a reason I'll explain at the bottom) to attach both ends where the splice meets up with your cutout. Attach the tubing and connector and your in business! Bleed the brakes, check for leaks and motor on!

Now to explain. Some people use what is called, "A FULL UNION Compression Fitting" to make tubing repairs. These fittings use a NUT, A FERRELL, and A FULL UNION (hence the reason I didn't use the term UNION), on both the ends of the tubing. While these may be just fine for almost any other fairly low pressure tubing repairs. You never, never use them on brake line repairs! Installed right you may luck out and get by. But if the Ferrell is not just so so, it can separate under pressure. Why take the chance? Double flared fittings are a little more work, but they will last forever. When you get to the FLAPS, ask the nice man behind the counter to speak to their Copper Fittings Guru. Every FLAPS has one. He's the guy that has been there a 100 years, doesn't go to lunch, and talks very gruffly. Speak nicely to him, tell him what your trying do accomplish, listen to what he has to say, and try not to waste his time. You will make a valuable asset for the future, maybe not a friend per-say, but an asset all the same! Another thing, never use Teflon tape on brake fittings. Some may get into the lines, besides you want the fittings to make the seal, not the tape making a artificial seal. Good luck,

Howard

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.

Is there a safe but Quick fix for said > problem??


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