Date:         Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:21:35 -0800
Reply-To:     Keith Ovregaard <kovregaard@COMCAST.NET>
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From:         Keith Ovregaard <kovregaard@COMCAST.NET>
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Thanks to you Jeff I decided to put the Foilastic in my doors. Since I
had the front door panels off anyway due to leaks in the vapor barrier
I thought now would be the time. I found a good price on 6" X 50' rolls
for $30 at a local lumber yard and started covering the sheet metal
inside the doors. That stuff really sticks! I covered just about every
surface possible and then used foil bubble insulation to provide a
vapor barrier. It was cut to fit a bit smaller than the door panel so
that the snap fasteners would still seat properly. Foil waterproof tape
was used to seal around the edges and around wires. Extra bubble
insulation was used to divert water away from the inside door panel by
extending the bottom edge of the insulation into the door frame a bit.
That way the water runs down the backside of the stuff and then drips
to the bottom of the door where the weep holes are.

I gotta tell you that this did make a big difference in road noise! I
can hear the stereo better and conversation is much easier. And I have
only done the 4 doors and under the passenger seat/wheel well (I sawed
off the front sheet metal cover to get at the area under the seat and
to create more storage space). Next will be the driver seat area, front
end near grill and rad fan housing, floor, cockpit ceiling and side
panels whenever I get into those areas. Using the bubble insulation
should make the van much warmer in the winter and reflect out heat in
the summer.

I am very happy with the results so far. Well worth the time and $$
(about $100 so far). Oh, and the rain no longer runs down the front
door panels onto the carpet!

Would have been interesting to do a decible meter reading before and
after.


Keith O.
84 Westy "Brownie"
90 Westy Syncro





> Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:13:03 -0800
> From:    Jeffrey Vickers <jeff@VICKERSDESIGN.COM>
> Subject: Re: vanagon Digest - 13 Mar 2006 to 14 Mar 2006 - Special
> issue
>          (#2006-224)
>
> I use this stuff called Foilastic. Its made by Polyken and sold at
> roofing supply houses. It has foil on one side and a butyl/asphalt
> 1/16" sticky (very sticky) base on the other. It cost $40 for a 50
> foot roll that is 9" tall. I like the 9 inch tall roll because
> anything larger than is hard to get into small cavities like the
> doors, etc. I've done my entire van in the stuff and it makes a huge
> difference. Foilastic and other products like it are not really
> "soundproofing" ---they are more like  "sound deadening" in that they
> will stop vibration from traveling down the vast expanse of sheet
> metal that make up a Vanagon body. If you do just the doors, be sure
> to do both the inside skin (right behind the doorpanel) and the door
> skin itself. Your doors will now "clunk" instead of "bang"! Its a
> beautiful thing.
>
> Jeff
>
> 87 Syncro Westy
> On Mar 14, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date:    Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:30:39 -0500
>> From:    Dustin Jones <jonesboy21@GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject: Soundproofing material
>>
>> What is a good material to use to further sound proof the engine
>> bay (and
>> possibly the doors) in my 90 Vanagon Carat?