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Date:         Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:48:47 -0800
Reply-To:     Bruce Nadig <motorbruce@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Bruce Nadig <motorbruce@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: "carat" FS on ebay PROFANITY WARNING
Comments: To: Number9Trvlr@AOL.COM
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I don't think that "we" as a list are doing anything. However, as individuals, we can each choose to act or not act.

At this point I really don't have a dog in this fight, or do I? We, as a Vanagon community, are often looked to for information, advice, etc. from those both new to the Vanagon world and those that have been around for a long time. I think that it is a very good thing that this is discussed on this list.

I wonder also if we might have a larger responsibility. I say wonder, because I'm not sure. Place yourself in the shoes of a novice, first-time Vanagon buyer. You have done a little bit of research and know that the Carat are some of the more desirable Vanagons. You find this one on eBay and you place a bid. After you win the auction you later find out that your purchase was not actually a Carat. In short, you discover that you got screwed. What taste does this leave in your mouth for Vanagons and the Vanagon community?

Do we owe it to the prospective buyer to try to politely correct the situation? Do we owe it to the prospective buyer once we know that this is not an innocent error, but an intentional misrepresentation? I know that if I were that naive, first-time potential Vanagon owner I would be very grateful if a more knowledgeable, more experienced person exposed this as the fraud that it is.

I don't think that caveat emptor applies in this situation. This is intentional misrepresentation rather then just an error on the part of the seller.

My 2¢.

Cheers, Bruce motorbruce motorbruce@hotmail.com

>From: "John C..." <Number9Trvlr@AOL.COM> >Reply-To: Number9Trvlr@AOL.COM >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: "carat" FS on ebay PROFANITY WARNING >Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:03:03 EST > >Are we "butting in to someone else's business?" >Or informing the list?... >Or.... ??? >I vote we stay out of Piquing other folks' sales.... >YMMV. >John C... >i sent a "ask the seller" question to the seller of that white "carat" in >florida (its actually a GL) on ebay, stating that what he is selling is >actually >a GL and that he might want to update the ad with correct information so >potential bidders wouldnt think theyre getting something they're not. > >best, >John C... >SLC, UT... >85 Westy Dinky Dau >90 Carat Number 9 >choose a path with heart. >Any path with heart.


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