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Date:         Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:08:04 -0500
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject:      Re: SOURCE OF HITCHES
Comments: To: Greg Potts <Greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA>
In-Reply-To:  <80F4EE67-10AA-4B50-A83C-20286D9A2D34@pottsfamily.ca>
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Actually, it means that Jamie's hitch does not provide the needed support to the frame to account for that load. I have towed Vanagons on tow loop mounted hitches. I have also broken the tow loops carrying a luggage rack. The real advantage of my hitch is the replacement of the bumper brackets with the three bolt extended mounting. BTW towing an un-braked load in Canada can get you into a lot of trouble. In RV forums, it is common discussion of folks getting caught with motor homes pulling cars that do not have auxiliary brakes. Heavy fines and impounding seems to be the consequences.

A few of my hitches have been tested by getting rear ended. The Vanagons have been saved and some of the offenders sometimes totaled. They have bent, but not broken and the frame mounting has spread out the load saving the rails.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Greg Potts Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:42 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: SOURCE OF HITCHES

Hi Mark,

My family has successfully and safely towed a 5000 lb baywindow bus with a Jamie Rivers hitch. Those tow loops are pretty near indestructible and the hitch is quite beefy.... Frank Condelli has told me he has seen a recovered westy where the frame bent before the tow loops did. Does that mean that Jamie's hitches are stronger than Dennis's? Hmmmm.

We should find a pair of testosterone-laden syncronauts and a couple of stumps and settle this outside. Perhaps a spectator event for EveryBus or Synchro de Mayo??

Happy trails,

Greg Potts Toronto, Ontario, Canada

1973/74/79 Westfakia Conversion **Bob the Tomato** LY3H 1977 Sunroof Automatic L63H/L90D http://www.pottsfamily.ca/westfakia http://www.busesofthecorn.com

On 31-Mar-06, at 4:37 PM, Mark Tuovinen wrote:

> Anthony, > > The link and info is great, but as I see it these are mounted to > the tie down loops and therefore not as good as the hitch that list > member Dennis Haynes offers. Dennis' hitch mounts securely to the > frame with with three bolts per side and plate steel, they do > require minor bumper modification, at least for chrome bumpers, but > this takes only a few minutes and you end up with a very stout > hitch that fits nicely, installs easily, and will tow anything that > you would sanely want behind your van. > > Mark in AK


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