Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:27:33 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject:      Re: AC convert
Comments: To: Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
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The refrigerant police may not go after individuals but they do show up
in auto shops. They will even bring in trick cars and try to get a shop
to do cheapie conversions to catch them.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Fisher
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:39 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: AC convert

Just putting the info out there. I've never heard of the refrigerant
police
taking anybody down, but I bet it could cause all kinds of legal issues
under certain circumstances, starting with accidents and insurance
claims.
I dunno that I'd call that a 'nice' gray area.... just a gray area, and
an
iffy one at that.
Besides, for the residents of those 18 states and D.C., there's no gray
area
at all, and those folks ought to at least be informed of that before
they
make a decision. Given all of that, and given that there are legal
alternatives that are effective and inexpensive, why get into it at all?

Cya,
Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Brennan" <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: AC convert


> Bah. We've been over this before...
>
> In order to be legal, you must first convert from CFC-12 to HC-134,
> including fittings. THEN you can convert to Duracool.
>
> As the EPA notes, it is illegal to convert any AC system from CFC-12
> to Duracool. However, there is a nice gray area, where there is no
> such restriction on AC systems that are using HC-134.
>
> In order to fall into that legal gray area, you must convert to
> HC-134 first. Find out how sucky HC-134 is. Then you can switch to
> Duracool, and once again enjoy a nice cold AC system.
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Robert Fisher wrote:
>
>> There may be legal issues, just FYI:
>>
>> http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/refrigerants/hc-12a.html
>>
>> Cya,
>> Robert
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Reddick" <SVYOLO@YAHOO.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: AC convert
>>
>>
>>> I used Duracool last summer and it worked great.  Far better than
>>> 134A.
>>>
>>> John
>>> Vanaru.com