Date:         Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:41:44 -0700
Reply-To:     Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
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From:         Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: What damage to expect when waterpump blows?
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Geez Ben... get a few Easter libations in ya there buddy? hehe
I wish I could oblige you about the pictures. I went through this before I
even knew about the list so it never occurred to me that somebody might want
to see pictures of the inside of my engine someday.
I dunno what cracks anybody else had or was talking about but mine were
between the valves. Mostly wee little cracks, one a little larger- they (the
machine shop guys) were concerned that if that one opened up more it could
cause crossflow between the valves.
They 'peened' the cracks shut. Yup, ball peen hammer time. I was skeptical
but it looked decent when they were done. They re-ground the valve seats,
etc. and life goes on.
Just another reason I'm a little leery to be taking that thing on a long
trip through hell's back acres.

Cya,
Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benny boy" <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: What damage to expect when waterpump blows?


> Mmmmmmmmmm.... water pump don't blow!  i have change over 20 water pumps
> last year. pump will tell your they are going away (VERY noisy)...way
> before
> they do! Anyway, if the pump was that bad, it can damage the core/case
> mating surface (on 2.1 also, NO DIFFERENCE between both engine and it's
> not
> a dificult job at all!!!!!!!), still, overheating is not cause by the pump
> unless the belt is broken (and if broken, the ALT light will come ON), i
> have seen many noisy pump with (afterward) dammage case and the engine was
> still in normal operating temp. and please, DON'T put JB weld over
> there!!!!!!!!! VERY STUPID!
>
> Wasser engine can take a lot of beating, and head don't crack so easily,
> and
> hey! after oppening more than 60 wasser, i HAVE NEVER SEEN A CRACKED
> head!!!!
>
> Tose are very solid engine, they just leak a bit, like any other VW...
>
> Still, if the engine is cooked... it won't turn over easily, if it turn
> nicely, it's still good.
>
> I see you guys talking about craked heads! please, show me one! me, i can
> show you 30 heads in my shop, none have cracks! yes, they have pitted
> surface, dead valve seat, burned valve, dammage combustion chamber.... but
> NO Crack... bad sealing (including head gasket)will cause many problems...
> not to say all problems
>
> I have received very leaky, dammage and low compression engine at my
> shop...
> and for most of them, a very good and professional sealing was THE
> solution.
> Some of those engine had a compression as low as 50 psi... WITHOUT
> changing
> any pistons or even rings, just by doing a very good head rebuilt/sealing
> they came back to life with 160psi.
>
> Yea....
> (if you don't know what you are talking about... don't write!)
> Ben (who did 5 engine in 1 month... and yes! i'm still The Corruptor)
> http://www.benplace.com/amc_head/amc9.jpg (yeas, i know, it's an AMC head
> picture... kinf of funny)
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> WaterHi
>
> I am looking for another car than the blue one.
>
> Have one on hand, but seller says that waterpump went a month ago, and the
> engine got warm.
>
> What damage should I expect, and what should I look for (now I know where
> to
> look for rust...............)
>
> Happy greetings
>
> Jens Jakob