Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:02:17 -0700
Reply-To: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Gas price war / costs of road trips
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If we all think like that and just "adapt " then
we'll never rid ourselves of dependence on
wahhabi oil.
These prices are too high for those of us who
can't afford airfare or lodging, so now I'm
thinking of putting a Diesel back in my Vanagon
(originally Diesel) and making my own fuel.
That's how high gas prices have affected me.
I'm not only cutting out the lattes, but have
gone back to Yuban as well.
It's time to reinvent the wood gas generator
(German Mr Fusion of WW2) to power the Vanagon.
That's what the Wehrmacht did when they got cut
off from their supply of oil. It was a biomass
reactor that produced methane to power military
vehicles.
After all, we chose Vanagons because we could'nt
afford to pay for 6 mpg.
My tankful was only 17-18 dollars in 1995.
Now it's almost $50.00 thanks to the sand people.
The latest hike is due to Amminadab's telling the
world we are'nt paying enough.
Robert
1982 Westfalia
--- Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM> wrote:
> I was in an RV sales place a couple of years
> ago and I saw a sign/chart that
> attempted to put some 'perspective' on what the
> price of gas really does to
> your road trip plans, if you're getting to
> think that a vacation in the
> vehicle is too expensive.
>
> Say you're going to make a trip of 3500 miles
> over 21 days, and you average
> 15 mpg on long trips, mostly 'highway' driving
> (the numbers don't really
> matter, plug in what you want). If gas cost
> $2.50/gallon when you planned
> for the trip last year, you were planning on
> spending about $585. Now that
> gas is $3 per gallon, it's gonna cost you $700,
> or $115 more- ouch. No road
> trip... but; their spin went like this:
>
> If you look at that in terms of extra cost per
> day, it's $5.48- the price of
> a combo meal, dessert in a restaurant, a couple
> of beers in same, that
> Starbucks run you make every morning.... you
> get the idea. So the idea was
> that if you drive sensibly and tune your
> vehicle to its best condition you
> might get a mile or two per gallon out of that
> and then you just 'sacrifice'
> some small thing each day (not even necessarily
> on the trip) and you've
> covered the extra cost of the gas easily, maybe
> even lost some weight in the
> bargain, etc. Contrast that to changing your
> vacation plans to something
> that includes lodging or maybe even airfare and
> you're easily still way
> ahead.
>
> Like I said, it's 'perspective' (read: spin
> designed to sell RVs), but it
> still may be a useful way of looking at things
> when trying to decide if you
> can still 'afford the gas' to take a trip or
> not.
>
> Cya,
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Honan" <cartruckbus@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Gas price war ~ way off topic
> (NVC)
>
>
> Thanks for the links Brian, it inspires my
> interest in math. This is not
> IMHO not nearly off topic. I just did a upper
> rebuilt to my Vanagon and I
> know it is not for the next 30 years but I am
> thinking, I did all that work
> and now gas is so exspensive I can't aford to
> take the road trips in it that
> I want. I am not proud of the gas miliage of
> the vanagon. Most of us seem to
> be doing all this work ourselves maybe we ned
> to figure out a decent
> afordable deisel convertion. so we are ready
> for the next wave of fuel if
> bio fuel is the answer. I love the van but
> somtimes I think my energy should
> be going into the next whatever....
>
> I am just frustrated at this situation I
> think I need to go ride my bike.
>
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