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Date:         Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:14:20 -0600
Reply-To:     Joy Hecht <jhecht@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Joy Hecht <jhecht@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: battery going?
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Hmm, two votes for temp 2 sensor. Drat, I was hoping it was more trivial. Even _I_ can deal with a new battery.

When I first start it in the morning it starts fine. Then within say a minute it finds an excuse to die. Then it cranks but doesn't start. Then after a couple of minutes it starts okay. When it is about to die, the battery light flickers on and off - if I rev it gently, it doesn't die and comes back to life. Then if I sit for a bit and rev it gently and let it purr a bit, it drives fine.

This has only happened first thing in the morning - hasn't happened when I've left it parked for a few hours in the afternoon.

Joy

**************************************************************** Joy Hecht and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon

For musings about life and the vanadventures: http://www.joyhecht.net

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:::-----Original Message----- :::From: Dennis Haynes [mailto:dhaynes@optonline.net] :::Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:37 PM :::To: 'Joy Hecht'; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM :::Subject: RE: battery going? ::: :::When you say it doesn't start, does that mean it is not cranking or that :::if cranks but the engine does not catch? If the problem is that it :::cranks, but does not catch, that is related to why it is stalling :::problem. No start after a short run could be a temp 2 sensor problems. :::Most likely is a bad connection at the sensor plug or a bad ground. If :::the problem is cranking, than it could be bad battery or battery :::connection. Weak batteries will usually have the most difficulty at :::first start. A battery problem after a few minutes of charging could be :::what I call the Die Hard failure. There is a failed inner cell connector :::in the battery. ::: :::Dennis ::: :::-----Original Message----- :::From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf :::Of Joy Hecht :::Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:27 PM :::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM :::Subject: battery going? ::: :::Hey, now that's I've wasted the airwaves with drivel for a few days, I :::have :::a technical question! ::: :::Matilda has been having some trouble getting going in the morning the :::past :::few days. I'll start her up, but then if I have to stop in the first :::few :::minutes of driving (stop sign, need to back up to get out of my parking :::space, that kind of thing) the engine will die and I have trouble :::getting :::her to start again. It happened yesterday and then again today. If I :::wait :::a few minutes then she'll start, but I'm careful to rev the engine :::gently :::and make sure she's running okay before I drive again, lest she slip :::back :::into inaction. ::: :::After that she's fine, and I haven't had trouble later in the day at :::all. :::Just first thing in the morning. It's not too cold here - maybe 40 at :::the :::lowest. And I'm at somewhat high altitude - 7000 in the Grand Canyon :::yesterday, and whatever Gallup, NM is this morning. ::: :::I seem to recall similar symptoms eons ago when the battery died of old :::age :::on my Honda. Does that sound like what's happening here? ::: ::: ::: :::Joy ::: ::: :::**************************************************************** :::Joy Hecht :::and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon ::: :::For musings about life and the vanadventures: :::http://www.joyhecht.net ::: :::****************************************************************


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