Date:         Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:21:31 -0700
Reply-To:     TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
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From:         TC <trclark@SHAW.CA>
Subject:      Re: Foam Roller paint your Vanagon with tremclad/rustoleum
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well as I start to let this all sink in I started to be conviniced
(went to home dump to get some dremel cutting wheels to clear out some seam
rust &  and walked out with my tremclad rust gloss white
and the expert white foam rollers :)
even if i were to drag up a s/w dev contract i'd still need to work 20hrs to
make 2K & none of the fun & experince just because i can

I'll just post a link here (wtach the url wrap) from the mopar forum
on some of the peoples test efforts
http://camaro.liquidfaith.com/Gallery/albums/uploads/Camaro20060423b/normal_
IMG_7813.JPG
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/2575958-DSC_0011.JPG
http://www.anime-assassins.com/myjunk/whitecoat1_3.jpg

Readin quite a few posts I have tried to get a final version of the
technique (links for canadians in the audience)
Materials
1 4L  $34.00 tremclad rust paint alkylid/alkyd based oil enamels
http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?frm_product_id=541&SBL=5&dds=47
http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/paint/?
http://www.rustoleum.com/Product.asp?frm_product_id=18&SBL=1
us branded version ??

1 4L $8.50 mineral spirit to thin the paint., dont get the ordorless cdnTire
49-1016-4

1 Turtle Wax® White Paste Polishing Compound  426g  $4.49  *NOT* rubbing
compound cdn
Product# 39-1021-4
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_i
d=845524441890043&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303517494&FOLDER%3C%3Ebrowse
Path=2534374303517515&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=1408474396670114&FOLDER%3C%3Efo
lder_id=1408474396670114&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=11460
78067181

1 Turtle Wax® Ultra Gloss Paste Wax $13.99
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder
_id=1408474396670114&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=114609209
4830&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443251542&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true

1 small foam paint brush

1 4 Pack of  4" $4.98 professional white FOAM rollers,  'Bennet Expert
model' Urethane HighGloss useage
(it's tiny and has one end rounded off, and the other cut straight, and is a
very high density foam.)
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?pr
oductId=34065&catalogId=10051&recN=112732&R=7365&langId=-15&partNumber=10976
5&storeId=10051

1 4 inch roller handle & tray $4.88
 http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?
productId=40045&catalogId=10051&recN=112731&R=11034&langId=-15&partNumber=41
7796&storeId=10051

1 garden spray bottle with water $2.98 (for wetting during sanding beween
coats sanding)
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CatalogSearchResultView?D=
garden%20spray%20bottle%20&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&productId=43739&catalogId
=10051&recN=0&R=11329&langId=-15&%20productId=40045&partNumber=940916&storeI
d=10051

1 - 4x4 hand sanding block
3 sheets each of 80, 100, 200, 400, 600, 800, 1000 grit wet/dry sand paper

1 drying cloth / cheese cloth 6.99
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_i
d=845524441890495&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303517494&FOLDER%3C%3Ebrowse
Path=2534374303517515&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=1408474396670117&FOLDER%3C%3Efo
lder_id=1408474396670117&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=11460
78150374

1 buffing bonnet  5.99
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_i
d=845524443251618&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303517494&FOLDER%3C%3Ebrowse
Path=2534374303517515&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=1408474396669473&FOLDER%3C%3Efo
lder_id=1408474396669473&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=11460
82333625

Optional Purchase random orbit electric Polishers
10" 3600rpm
1 random orbit high speed (4500rpm) polisher $219.00
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder
_id=1408474396669473&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442458991&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East
_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1146078199855&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true
or cheapy $49.99
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_i
d=845524441890751&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303517494&FOLDER%3C%3Ebrowse
Path=2534374303517515&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=1408474396669473&FOLDER%3C%3Efo
lder_id=1408474396669473&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=11460
78228685
1 closed garage or carport not windy day

Directions
u prep the car with 80,100, then 200, finished with a 400, & all your body
work,
u must strip all chrome, bumpers, rubber, door handles, trim etc

u thin the paint with mineral spirits so it just about as thin as water, a
little thicker.
 (try 4 parts paint 1 part thinner as your starting pt)
 NEVER NEVER shake the paint  bubbles will occur
u paint at 10am,
 wipe each pannel down with drying cloth soaked in mineral sprits prior to
foam rolling
u paint a 2nd coat at 7pm
u wet sand next morning at 8am
 use a spray bottle with water & dish soap and keep the paper really wet,
 use bucket of water with drying cloth to remove wet sanding residue,
repeat 3 times for total of 6 coats
use 600 grit after 2 coats, 800 grit after 4 coats, and 1000/1500  grit
after 6 coats  depending on your elbow grease
u use a high speed polisher, a buffing bonnet and 2 table spoons of the
turtle wax polishing
compound., run for 2-5 mins on a 3'x3' area, let machine weight be the guide

then wax to produce final finish

-line the roller tray with tin-foil toss the tin foil after each coat less
contamination for each coast

-load up the roller before hitting the pannel
-work a pannel at a time, roller in one hand foam brush in the other
-start rolling in the middle of the pannel and lighten your touch toward the
edge.
-work in a starburst pattern from the center to the edges,
 crossing the star at intersecting angles to prevent hard lines from the
roller's edges.
-if bubbles appear (your pushing down to heavy) try to light roll with just
weight of roller
 wait 2 mins they should settle out
-if  you get orange peel effect paint it too thick
-use a foam brush to paint the jambs and tight spots
-u have 10 mins to work the paint once its rolled on surface
-if you wipe the last wet sanding with mineral sprits that will be the gloss
  after polishing
-keep the buffing bonnet WET, have a spray bottle full of water and spray it
on the bonnet each time
  u load up the polish paste, be very generous with both.