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Date:         Mon, 22 May 2006 00:01:33 -0400
Reply-To:     neil <goofymuso@YAHOO.CA>
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From:         neil <goofymuso@YAHOO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Engine bearing rattle at warm restart
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <000001c67d50$6d956200$6400a8c0@masterpc>
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Well I think I used the wrong word. "Rattle" is incorrect.

Though it doesn't always happen, it's actually more like a dull thudding or clunking sound. Unfourtunately, I'm sure it's not a lifter or rod bearing sound. I know those sounds.

Will be running thicker oil when oil changed.

Thanks for info.

Neil.

--- Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET> wrote:

> Engine bearings do not rattle. Hey may bang or clunk > but no rattle. Most > likely, you are hearing a lifter that is bleeding > down and clacking > until it fills. 10w-30 is way to light for the air > cooled or water boxer > engine for summer operation. The leaky exhaust sound > on a cold engine > may be a leaky exhaust but on the air cooled engine > usually indicates > loose heads and failed upper gaskets. > > Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of neil > Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:21 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Engine bearing rattle at warm restart > > Hi all. > > An engine bearing noise question. (yes did search > archives for this one :) I'll try to be brief ;) > > Warm restart; sometimes bearing rattle (main?) until > oil light goes out. Oil light flickers 1 or 2 > seconds > but goes out/stays off. I let it idle til sound goes > away before revving/putting load on engine. Cold > start > there are different sounds, (almost like a leaky > exhaust gasket) but no bearing noises that I can > hear. > Oil light same. Experience tells me the "warm" sound > is a warning of things to come. > > So here's my question: > > How long can this "warm" sound go on before main or > rod (think sound is main) bearing fails? I > understand > it's hard, nay almost impossible, to answer this > online, but any real life experiences with this > symptom, and how long others had this go on before > engine teardown/rebuild, would be helpful. > > Engine details: > > 2 litre AC engine/4 spd. in 81 Westy. Pretty sure PO > put in 10W/30W oil. (will change soon) Sounds/runs > well. On 10 day trip used little if any oil. > Compression test healthy/even. Heads were replaced > by > PO, engine had some kind of "rebuild" before heads > replaced. No idea how many km's on these parts as > odometer has intermittent operation, don't know what > was replaced, or machined for "rebuild". Quite > likely > only some internal parts replaced due to a cracked > head, and not a total rebuild. Pretty sure about > that > but can research PO's invoices more thouroughly if > need be.... > > > > Neil Nicholson. > 1981 air cooled Westfalia. > Cheap-o web site: > > http://www.members.shaw.ca/tubanick/welcomewesty.html > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >

Neil Nicholson. 1981 air cooled Westfalia. Cheap-o web site:

http://www.members.shaw.ca/tubanick/welcomewesty.html

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