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Date:         Wed, 14 Jun 2006 08:36:01 -0400
Reply-To:     Christopher Gronski <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Christopher Gronski <gronski@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Digitool vis a vis Van-Cafe tool - origins,
              availability - do it yourself or new source
Comments: To: Sam Walters <sam.cooks@verizon.net>
In-Reply-To:  <448F5942.3040003@verizon.net>
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Sam depending on price I7d be interested in a group purchase of Darrell's tool.

Chris

On 6/13/06, Sam Walters <sam.cooks@verizon.net> wrote: > First, let's have a history lesson. Shawn Feller wrote about Darrell > Boehler's Digitool, saying that it is "basically a simplified version of > the great tool available for rent from van-cafe.com." > > It would be better for people to know what they are talking about before > writing. The first draft of manual the analysis tool that Van-Cafe > rents and sells was written in late September 2003. The first release > of the manual was in November of that year. It is reasonable to assume > then, that the product was developed and released in 2003. > > On the other hand, Version 3.0 of Darrell's Digitool was released in > 2000. It had been around for several years before that. I know I had > been looking at his web pages and giving consideration to building one > before version 3.0 came out. Darrell did not create a simplified > version of the Van-Cafe product. To the contrary, the Van-Cafe, then > Volks Cafe, tool was recognized as something that followed in the line > of the Digitool when it was released long after the Digitool had been > around and publicly available for sale or for free if you made your own. > > Complete instructions on how to build your own Digitool were always made > available on the net by Darrell. They still are there today if you just > go look. Explanations of how to use it are there also. Check the link > found on the list today - which is in the archives dozens of times. > Darrell wasn't trying to create a secret product and make a great > profit, he was just trying to help people learn how to keep their vans > running well. He used to be a regular contributor to the list, > responding to requests for help quite frequently. > > It is the Van-Cafe tool that is a variant of the Digitool. It is > certainly not the other way around. It does appear the Van-Cafe tool > has added a few more information points to those that are found on the > Digitool. The Van Cafe tool has a nice pdf file for instructions. > Darrell's web site has instructions and references to pages in Bentley. > > Look at the pictures of the units. They aren't that different. > > But, again, it would be nice if folks would try to keep the facts > straight and not shoot from the hip or guess and post it as they know > something that they don't. > > Second, there are questions about the availability of the Digitool. > Darrell Boehler no longer makes them. Why, I don't know. this was > discussed just last week. The only current way to buy one is to buy a > used one if anyone wants to let go of theirs, but why would they unless > they did a conversion. > > You can get all of the instructions for how to make one for yourself > from Darrell's web site. > > http://www.loam.org/vw/Vanagon/DigiTool/ > > I exchanged pmails with a list member who has the technical skill and > resources to make these things just a few days ago when all of these > same basic questions about the Digitool were being discussed here > (doesn't anyone read the list) and he said he might be interested in > making them if there was enough interest and a few other issues could be > dealt with. We haven't exchanged any further emails. > > Sam > > -- > Sam Walters > Baltimore, MD > > 89 Syncro GL, Zetec Inside > 85 Westy Weekender > 85 Mercedes Benz 300D Turbodiesel - to become veggie oil powered > > All incoming and outgoing email scanned by > automatically updated copy of Norton AntiVirus. >


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