Date:         Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:35:52 EDT
Reply-To:     RAlanen@AOL.COM
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Coolant pipes replacement
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In a message dated 28/06/2006 10:36:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

I don't  follow your reasoning on this. The engine is not supposed to be kept
'very  cool', it's designed to operate in a certain temperature range and
running  cool can ultimately result in damage just as well as running hot,
albeit  over a longer period of time.
The original materials used for these pipes  are indifferent conductors at
best. I don't believe the system was designed  to be dependant in any way on
heat transfer from the pipes themselves for  cooling. I don't have the means
to measure it at the moment (some on the  list do), but given the various
factors involved (initial temperature from  the engine/thermostat, flow rate
and ambient temperature just to name a  few) I'd bet the heat loss in that
section on the stock system is generally  negligible- and I'd further bet
that heat retention with rubber hoses is  essentially negligible as well. I
think your cooling system would have to  be otherwise seriously compromised
for the difference to ...well, make a  difference. The Vanagon is in fact the
only vehicle I've personally seen  that used anything but rubber hoses.
In fact I wonder that having metal  pipes wouldn't contribute to operating
issues during the winter in some  climates due to the very radiant properties
you  describe.





Robert, thanks, I was just about to jump in here  and say the same thing.

Cheers,

Frank  Condelli
Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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