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Date:         Wed, 5 Jul 2006 17:40:24 -0700
Reply-To:     Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vanagon (DoubleCab) Crash Test Video
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What struck me (hah!) about the first video was that you're never going to have an accident quite like that. Under what conditions are you going to go full frontal into an object that is that tall, wide and completely immovable? A building would be more forgiving. I think if I had been in the second van my legs/knees would probably be pretty messed up- I don't know that I'd have much room to spare. On the other hand, I found it interesting that the steering wheel went straight up, instead of back (yeah I have even less room there). Y'all suppose they had that in mind or it was just a result of the way van was hit? There is definitely something to be said for being up higher than the other guy...

Cya, Robert

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Fortino" <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: Re: Vanagon (DoubleCab) Crash Test Video

> people your freaking me out with videos like this.. did not see the crash > dummy > whats up? LOL > > > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM> >>Sent: Jul 5, 2006 5:01 PM >>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>Subject: Re: Vanagon (DoubleCab) Crash Test Video >> >>I saw that crash test a couple of months ago when it was posted on The >>Samba. >> It was posted after a series of photos depicting a 45 + 45mph offset >>frontal crash between a Westy and a Chrysler minivan. The Westy driver >>walked away, the Chrysler people went away in an ambulance. >> >>Don't get me wrong, I don't think the VW was repairable, but it wasn't >>flattened either. >>See it here: >> >>http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=175672 >> >>It cheered me up tremendously! >> >>Jake >> >>On 7/5/06, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>> At 03:38 PM 7/5/2006 -0400, Larry Johnson wrote: >>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpU5azjCB8&search=vw%20bus >>> >>> Woof! So there is a crush space after all. Too bad we're sitting in >>> it. >>> >>> This certainly shows the limitations of the "hard front" >>> philosophy. Do you know the test conditions? Instructive to compare >>> this with the photos of the Folksam offset-headon test against the Volvo >>> wagon. >>> >>> It's always made me a bit queasy to know that the design philosophy >>> in effect was to turn the other vehicle's crush space into a shared >>> resource, trying to save my life at the expense of the other >>> guy's. This really brings it home in a wrenching way. >>> >>> These vehicles -- seriously -- need airbags. Big ones, facing >>> out. With a thiotimiline trigger. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Beierl - Providence RI USA -- >>> http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ >>> '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage," '85 GL "Poor Relation" >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>Jake >>1984 Vanagon GL >>1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" >>www.crescentbeachguitar.com


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