Date:         Thu, 13 Jul 2006 19:46:47 -0700
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From:         Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: [T2] help with starter relay? (odd, see pics)
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Chris -

Pictures are abit fuzzy, but looks similar (you have a Hella mfr'd one) to
the Hard Start Relay setup I spoke of in an earlier post to you:

>Finally, in worse case situations, a hard start relay goes a >long way to
solving starter problems (Bosch WR-1 as an >example).  I have one on each of
my VWs, past & present.

>For more info on this subject see my link:

>http://www.oldvolkshome.com/hardstart.pdf

Compare the relay terminals and where the wires go on your vehicle verses my
diagram on my website.  Betcha because of that terminal breakage it's
because it was just about to go and not allowing the proper amount of
current flow for the starter to activate.

The relay is essentially a relay used commonly in lighting, horn, fuel pump,
fuel injection and some other circuits on other vehicles, domestic or import
and manufactured by Bosch, Hella, Siemens, etc., as well as the cheepie Far
East ones bought at your FLAPS.  When used with a starter circuit, it's best
to use the 40amp rated relay.  The current VW number is 141 951 253 B, Bosch
0332 019 150.  Stay away from the cheepies.
--
Jim Thompson
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise"
72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
oldvolkshome@gmail.com
http://www.oldvolkshome.com
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On 7/13/06, chris <vanagon@frontleftspeakerposse.com> wrote:
>
> http://eucasafari.vendioweb.com/starter/
> I knew my starter was going out, and it failed to start again so I went to
> clean the terminals.
> I found some odd looking wiring and a relay, that almost looks like a
> lighting relay of some kind.
> When I pulled one of the blade off of the relay, it snapped the blade.  Im
> not sure where I can even find one of these things, let alone if its
> actually a stock item.
> Can anyone tell from the pictures referenced above what the heck kind of
> setup this is and how I might go about fixing it?
> I have a new starter on the way, perhaps I can get some of this back to
> normal when I do the swap...
> thanks for any help, suggestions or misc tomfoolery,
>