Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 18:59:03 +0200
Reply-To: Jens Jakob Andersen <jayjay@ZORCK.DK>
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From: Jens Jakob Andersen <jayjay@ZORCK.DK>
Subject: Re: Loud metallic knock from engine??????
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Hi John
Sound like I'll try to take it for a spin.
The sound didnt go away after 5 minutes of idle, and the engine
sputters a bit, like it has lost some power.
I can replace the hy-lifter without pulling more than the pushrod
tube, valve train, pop new hy-lifter in, put incollapsible
pushrodtube, replace valvetrain?
Sounds good.
I could pull the rockecover, but I havent got a new gasket - willthe
old one break when I pull the valvecover?
/JJ
At 18:54 12-07-2006, John Lane wrote:
>Well, mine sounded pretty loud.....louder than what I thought a
>lifter should....if it's coming from the head, I would think it's in
>the valve train. You can easily pop the cover to see if a spring has
>broken. As a precaution I replaced my lifter, easy enough job....got
>all I needed at Bus Depot. The collapsible push rid tube worked
>wonders and no leaks. What I found is if I don't run her every other
>day, she can make the noise and sometimes takes a while to go away.
>The Restore works wonders. Even with a broken spring there would be
>no 'tension' on the valve train and it might not make any noise at
>all. I would pop the cover, wiggle the rocker arms...pushing in on
>the valve...if it pushes in....it's the lifter. There should be no
>play except for the tolerance between the rocker and the push rod. I
>replaced my lifter and the problem came back only once. My guess is
>the hydraulic lock is lost, but after running for a bit...the lifter
>refills and all is well again.
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Jens Jakob Andersen <jayjay@ZORCK.DK>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:44:14 AM
>Subject: Re: Loud metallic knock from engine??????
>
>Hi John
>
>It doesnt sound like the normal valve-clatter.
>
>It sounds likesomeone tapping onthe head with a spanner.
>
>I listened with the extensionset from the socketkeys, and it comes
>from the rear exhaustvalvearea, righthandside.
>
>Either it is a valve that hangs (broken valvespring?) I guess, or a lifter.
>
>Any ideas on diagnose?
>
>/JJ
>At 18:22 12-07-2006, John Lane wrote:
> >Both mine and a friends Westy had a 'knock'...if it sounds like a
> >lifter, change the oil filter to a VW one and pour a can of Restore
> >in....works for us.
> >
> >----- Original Message ----
> >From: Jens Jakob Andersen <jayjay@ZORCK.DK>
> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:09:19 AM
> >Subject: Loud metallic knock from engine??????
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >Now I got the van started.
> >
> >And I have a loud metallic knock fromthe engine, righthand side.
> >
> >Sound to me like a stuck hydraulic lifter, or a stuck valve..............
> >
> >Any good suggestions on a quick diagnosis and fix?
> >
> >It is not just the normal valve clatter when cold - it is a
> >distingtive metallic KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK.
> >
> >SIGH!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >Jens Jakob
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