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Date:         Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:20:15 -0500
Reply-To:     Kimmons Anthony <vanagon@ANTHONYKIMMONS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Kimmons Anthony <vanagon@ANTHONYKIMMONS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Dr. Z - (vague volkswagen content)
Comments: To: Mike Rouby <mikerouby@YAHOO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <20060729225647.13414.qmail@web37404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Wait? So is the Vanagon & older bus considered a "mid size", "full- size", or "bus" type of vehicle? I guess I've always thought of mini- van as just a smaller version of a van, (at any size) and figured my vanagon probably fit into that category somehow. Haven't the older busses been around since the 50's or before? Am I wrong here? I guess the term 'mini-van' must have some sort of legal definition that maybe I haven't heard.

Sorry to sound "Van-ignorant", but I guess you don't learn if you don't ask. Hope I haven't opened up too big of a can of worms here! I know this list already has more than a few emails about this topic in the past!! :o)

On Jul 29, 2006, at 5:56 PM, Mike Rouby wrote:

> As far as vehicles available for sale at dealerships in the USA, > then Chrysler still invented the minivan. > > <sticking tongue out> > > John Bange <jbange@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> The arguement that VW created the minivan has been brought up >> before. VW >> actually created the "microbus" (think tiny bus) not the Minivan. >> However >> Chrysler took their usually full-size van line and conceptialized a >> smalled-version built on K-car componantry and based it on front- >> wheel >> drive, making it more economical than those full-sized RWD vans as >> well. It >> was quite revolutionary at the time (1984) when station wagons and VW >> microbuses were the only other way families could haul crap down >> the road. > > > Sorry, if you're going to disqualify the VW entry based simply on > size, then > the prize still doesn't go to Chrysler. Next in line, with front- > wheel drive > and small stature is the Toyota Liteace, which beat the Chrysler to > market > by FIFTEEN YEARS. Here's a 1970 Liteace: > > > Now if you want to narrow it down to the "First Van Sold in the US > Market > Under 6 Feet Tall (But Not a Station Wagon) Which Puts the Driver > Behind the > Front Wheels Rather Than ON Them", I guess maybe that'd be the Dodge > Caravan. > > -- > John Bange > '90 Vanagon - "Geldsauger" > > > > --------------------------------- > See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. >


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