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Date:         Wed, 9 Aug 2006 22:41:42 -0700
Reply-To:     Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: blue vs green vs orange coolant
In-Reply-To:  <bfb5ccc40608091333t143c531kaf5388a52099fb94@mail.gmail.com>
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I second that emotion. I've also used Havoline Dex cool or Prestone extended-life orange coolant now for 7 years.

I use it in inline-fours and waterboxers. It's dealer-recommended ethylene glycol based, and I figure if it's made to last longer, then it's better.

Robert

1982 Westfalia

--- Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Ditto on this end. I've run nothing but > "Orange" Dex-Cool (Havoline brand) > since 1997 based on the recommendation of a > Dealer Mechanic whom I've known > for a long time and trust. He basically said > the Dealer Blue Stuff is great > (not cheep, though), but the Orange Dex-Cool is > every bit as good if not > better as noted by Jim Henry. Nary a problem > with it for 9 years now, with > regular changes and flushings of course. > -- > Jim Thompson > 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" > 73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise" > 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" > oldvolkshome@gmail.com > http://www.oldvolkshome.com > ********************************** > On 8/9/06, Jim Henry <jch@jchgis.com> wrote: > > > > I have been using orange (Dexcool) since 1998 > or 50000 miles with very > > satisfactory results. I researched it as well > as I could when I first > > needed > > to flush my westy's cooling system and > non-phosphates coolants became an > > issue. I came to the conclusion that it was > appropriate, as long the > > system > > was thoroughly flushed of other coolant > types. The technical document > > available indicated that it might even be > more appropriate than the "blue > > stuff" because of the anticorrosive qualities > of the organics found in it. > > There may have been some problems with this > in the mid 90's when Dexcool > > first appeared. I remember many traditional > mechanics being very > > suspicious > > of the "new fangled stuff" and many reports > of "gumming things up". None > > of > > these have been observed in the half dozen > cars, including my westy that > > have be orange since then. I think in the end > I really went with the > > orange > > stuff because of the "price of the coolant", > it used to be very > > competively > > priced at Kmart. I actually have a couple of > cars using the yellow stuff > > now, it seems to be the evolving solution. No > pun intended. > > > > Just my $0.02 worth. > > > > Jim Henry > > Durham, NC > > 84 westy > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] > > > On Behalf Of Curt Newsome > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:31 PM > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > > Subject: Re: blue vs green vs orange > coolant > > > > > > My '85 Westy came with a new engine and > mostly new cooling > > > system. The PO made a point of showing me > the orange > > > phosphate free coolant (including 2 extra > gallons under the > > > back seat). A month or two later when I > had the van in for > > > an AT overhaul, the mechanic doing the work > freaked out over > > > the orange coolant, claiming it would "gum > up" the cooling > > > system and insisting that I HAD to switch > to blue (don't know > > > the brand, is there more than one?). He > felt so strongly > > > about it that after I protested that the > orange coolant was > > > not only phosphate free but also brand new, > he offered to > > > flush and replace at no labor cost > > > - just the price of the coolant. > > > > > > Don't know if he just wanted to sell > coolant or if he really > > > knew what he was talking aobut. It's a > pretty reputable and > > > well known shop. > > > > > > I did end up taking him up on his offer, > only because I was > > > unfamiliar with the orange as well...... > > > > > > Curt > > > '85 Westy > > > Seattle >

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