Date:         Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:10:45 -0700
Reply-To:     Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
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From:         Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: New Engine?
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The page at the first link in my initial post has the line "The MYT Engine
has been tested with fuel and air motoring on our Dynamometer." I wasn't
sure what to make of that so I googled the thing and found some other
references to fuel runs and dyno tests, etc.

Basically I'm curious if the theory is sound. As for their paranoia, I think
it's perfectly justified. Aside from anything else, patents themselves don't
protect you from anything, you need money and lawyers for that. In my
googling I came across another very similar design that is 'in development'
as well, for instance. That's all aside from the issue of whether or not you
really need to be paranoid about Big Money Oil thugs showing up in your
bedroom in the middle of the night.

The thought I had about the that 'bean can' sized engine was that it didn't
seem like components that small could handle the stresses necessary to move
a car in any practical manner. I'm a long way from any kind of engineer but
you'd think the crank on the thing would have to made of unobtanium.

Another thing did occur to me; I've been reading for years about the car
design using dual electric motors on each wheel (for forward/reverse brake
and reverse/forward brake, as well as 'waste motion' generation) that would
run off of a main generator. The big hang-up seemed to be that in order to
generate that kind of juice you'd wind up with a big enough engine that you
might as well have a conventional drive train. I wonder if this thing worked
that it wouldn't solve that particular problem.

If the thing can be made to work as claimed it would be huge.

Robert


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Collum" <collum@VERIZON.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: New Engine?


> Here's the link to the video where he talks about the "Diesel" test and
> 150 miles per gallon.  The engine for an automobile is shown to be about
> the size of a large can of baked beans.
>
> http://www.angellabsllc.com/video/autoShowVideo2.wmv
>
> Mikel
>
>
> John Bange wrote:
>> On 8/16/06, Mike Collum <collum@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Checking out the links ... they said they did a test running it on 100%
>>> soy bean oil ... with estimated fuel milage that's hard to believe.
>>
>>
>> Really? Gimme a link! That's more than they had 2 years ago. All I
>> could find was a vague statement that they "like to use" biodiesel
>> type fuels, and that they had a hybrid MYT in a Ford Focus that they
>> "can't talk about". It seems weird to me, but there seems to be a LOT
>> of stuff they're keeping hush-hush. I mean, they have a PATENT on the
>> design, so what is there to keep secret-- other than maybe that they
>> don't have all the bugs worked out yet. I just get this weird feeling
>> like someone's going for my wallet when on the one hand they show up
>> at auto shows trumpeting the virtues of their design, but when asked
>> for an actual working prototype or the name of a major company that
>> WANTS one, they clam up and say it's "secret".
>>
>> --
>> John Bange
>> '90 Vanagon - "Geldsauger"
>>