Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:55:41 -0700
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From: Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: coil wire on AC vanagon?
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Jake -
Bentley is just flat wrong, at least for the air cooled variety. Air Cooled
Vanagons whether equipped with points (Federal) or Hall
(California) Ignition utilize the SAME Ignition Wire Sets, which includes
the Coil Wire.
From the Factory ETKA:
N013851 - Ignition Cable. This is the bulk Ignition Cable used on the Spark
Plugs as well as the Coil Wire.
036 035 281 - Screened Connector at the Distributor Cap. ORIGINALLY used on
the both the Spark Plug and Coil Cables, points style or Hall.
NOTE 1: The connector at the coil was the standard brass with a plain boot,
again, points style or Hall.
NOTE 2: Replacement Ignition Cable Sets provided by Bosch do not have
Screened Connectors of this type, but rather have the standard brass
connector with boot. I have used these in my Ex-80 Calif Vanagon and points
system Bus/Vans with no problems.
113 035 255A - Spark Plug Connector, 62mm Long, Screened - Cylinders 1 & 3
021 035 255G - Spark Plug Connector, 109mm Long, Screened - Cylinders 2 & 4
All of the above sold as a kit by Bosch, their number 09171 which fits 69-74
Type 4, Bay Window Bus 72-79 and Air Cooled Vanagon 80-83.5. Current
Ignition Cable Set is made in Mexico for Bosch and I have had no quality
issues, good or bad with it.
If you desire Screened Connectors at the Distributor Cap in your Ignition
Cable Set, I believe Bremi in Europe was the manufacturer. Beru was another
manufacturer that used Screened Connectors as well. Perhaps Ron/Bus Depot
can source them. The only benefit of Screened Connectors is for additional
RFI noise shielding for the radio.
Again, there is no difference in the Coil Wire on California or Federal Air
Cooled Vanagons.
There is a difference in coils of course, as the Hall Ignition requires a
higher voltage coil. The points variety models use the ole plain-jane 12V
Blue Coil, Bosch 00012.
--
Jim Thompson
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise"
72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
oldvolkshome@gmail.com
http://www.oldvolkshome.com
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On 8/16/06, jake beaulieu <jbeaulie@nd.edu> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> According to the Bentley, California and Federal version air cooled
> Vanagons
> take different coil wires. The maximum resistance across the wire is
> 12,000
> and 2,400 ohms for the California and Federal models, respectively. I
> purchased a set of Bosch plug and coil wires from Bus Depot about a year
> ago
> for my Federal Vanagon (1982) and it turns out that the coil wire is at
> 11,500 ohms. I just got off the phone with BD and they do not carry
> separate coil wires for California and Federal models. Additionally, my
> dealer claims that the coil wire does NOT differ between these models.
>
> So whats up? Somebody must be wrong; Bus Depot and the Dealer or the
> Bentley.
>
> Alternatively, maybe a new Bosch wire from BD run below 2400 ohms meeting
> the criteria for both California and Federal versions and my wire is
> simply
> defective (used for about 1 year)?
>
> Could somebody out there with an air cooled Vanagon check to see what the
> resistance is across the coil wire?
>
> Ron, any additional insight on this?
>
> Thanks,
> Jake
> NW Indiana