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Date:         Wed, 23 Aug 2006 06:24:49 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject:      Re: Auto tranny and diff mating questions
Comments: To: Aaron <lists@MYCOMMUNITYNET.NET>
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Answers below!

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:18 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Auto tranny and diff mating questions

Hello all. I'm making slow (but steady) progress on my Auto transmission but have a few questions. The history is that I have 2 auto transmissions. 1 has a bad transmission and 1 has a bad R&P. So I figured why not stick the two halves together to make a good one.

I now have the two good halves clean and ready to go together but am a little unsure of myself. I'm sure someone on the list has done this and has more expertise on this than I. If you wouldn't mind responding with some tips, hints and reassurance, I'd appreciate it.

1) The second set of seals that I have are the ones that separate the transmission fluid from the gear oil. I think these these the Pinion oil seals (39.50). I haven't pulled off the cover plate (39.51 figure 4) yet. I'm sure it would be a bad thing to slip up and score sealing surfaces, so are there any special tools, techniques etc on how to get these seals out (without having special tools)? What am I going to find? For example the bentley mentions that I should use sleeve 2058 when re-installing the cover (39.51 fig.4). Do I really need this? I also don't have a press. Can I use a "hammer" press or should I have them done for me? The seals need a press. Remove the seal housing. There are also two O rings that should be replaced. Get the correct ones, do not go the hardware store route. Make sure the seals are correct with 3 bump on the face. Install so there will be a space aligned with the drain hole. This way, any leak will go outside, not mix from one housing to the other. Also, replace the governor seal. This is the real source of most ATF into the diff housing leaks.

2) My second set of questions is about determining the shim thickness. I'm not sure I get the procedure (38.5). One tranny had a 1.2mm shim and the other had 2 x .4mm shims for .8mm total. As I'm using 2 different transmissions, and not just sticking it back together, I'm assuming that this would be a fairly important thing. Is it important or can I just pick one. I don't have the measuring tools needed and would have to go and get some parts in order to measure.

The shims are really matched to the auto section. Use the shim that was with the section that you are going to use.

3) My third question is not imperative now, but I figure I should ask as I prepare things. The differential pan gasket is something like $40. I don't feel like paying that much. I did a subaru conversion and noticed the oil pan is sealed with red RTV. Is that something that could work. My oil pan gasket made from it has not leaked if that's what subaru prescribes...Any reason to not try it?

You want to use the "Right Stuff" for the pan, not silicone.

I appreciate any help. It seems the more you learn, the less you know!

Aaron '85 Westfalia


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