Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:38:24 -0700
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From: Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: New Brake rotors.pads
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I think I have to make an objective statement with these disc rotor warping
reports from my perspective. My 84 Westy, almost 200K miles (125K I've put
on myself), packed to the gills for the last 7 1/2 years because I live it
full time. Up until about 3 years ago, I still had the original rotors and
replaced them not because of warpage, but because I wore a groove into one
of them, thanks to a piece of metal deflected up from the roadway (dunno
how, but it happened). Had about 110K miles on the rotors. I drive an
automatic and let's face it, autos tend to get more use in the brakes
department because most (including myself) do not downshift when
decelerating near as much as one with a stickshift. It's the nature of the
beast. If warping was such a big deal, I surely would have detected it,
considering how hard I drive mine.
I might add that I was extremely lucky to have a complete service history
(with supporting receipts) clear back to the day the original owner picked
it up at the dealership in 1984 in Redlands, CA (he lived in Hemet). Not
bad, considering I purchased it from the 3rd owner, who along with the 2nd
owner also kept meticulous records on this beast during their tenure.
The replacement ATE rotors on my Westy have stood up quite well, without the
benefit of Cryogenic Thermal Cycling. Unless yer gonna do a 'round the
world tour in your Vanagon or do a Central America/South America journey
through the jungles & deserts, putting it through harsher environments
other than the regular on-road or off-road use that most of us owners do
(and I do fair amount myself with just 2wd), I wonder about the intrinsic
value of spending extra $$ for this "wow-wee" treatment. Are Syncro owners
(as an example) that "brutal" with their machines? You'd think for the
amount of money one could throw at these for the "bells and whistles", ya
might as well get a Hummer (tongue very much in-cheek<grin>).
--
Jim Thompson
84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise"
72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
oldvolkshome@gmail.com
http://www.oldvolkshome.com
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On 9/8/06, TC <trclark@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > > POWERSLOT CRYO (way expensive)
> > I guess the real question do these POWERSLOT CRYO
> > realy last 3 times as long as the straight rotors
> > if that is realy true & you get betterbraking its a no brainer
> > pay the extra since the least expensive is about $50 per rotor and the
> $130
> > is less tha(3*50)
> > and the extra install etc
> > so anybody out there vette these claims ??
> Well I cant find any vanagonites but there is quite a wealth of
> testimonials
> from various co that do Cryogenic Thermal Cycling
> http://www.percryo.com/racing.htm
> http://www.300below.com/site/duralife.html
> http://www.myroadster.net/cryo.asp
> etc etc
> whats more percryo will treat a set of new rotors for $35/rotor
> so ATE/Brembo for 40-50 percryo 35 for $85 you get it looks like at least
> 2X
> life
> so make me curious why of the vanagon vendors (Ken ??) not sell cryo
> rotors
> seems that vamagon are famous for rotor warpage esp. for those of use in
> mountainous area
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